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we live in a reality of phantoms and

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monsters they exist Among Us and

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sometimes they win even the devil was an

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angel once the world has its own rules

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and these rules are not human

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some of us seek answers to the origin

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and existence of Cryptids and The

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Unexplained

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nightmare I think you're going to like

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hey folks good evening and welcome to

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another episode of fans of monsters

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unexplained I'm your host lawn Stricker

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with me he's a veteran Outdoorsman and

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paranormal researcher who puts together

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collections of terrifying odd and

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strange encounters

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he also references his own personal

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encounters with the Unexplained Steve

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studied English language at University

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of Tennessee Knoxville and lives in

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Portland Oregon his books include

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strange things in the woods a collection

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of terrifying tales and my strange world

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as most recent series is titled National

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Park Mysteries and disappearances

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from his early years Steve has had what

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can be called strange and oftentimes

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frightening experiences with the

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Paranormal and The Unexplained these

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encounters led him to search for the

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answers only to discover the truth is an

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easy to find his book My Strange World

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is a collection of Steves encountered

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with in his personal life as well as his

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life as renowned paranormal researcher

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now if you like scary stories and uh and

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to take a trip down the road as a young

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explained and bizarre then buckle up and

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get ready to dive into the Strange World

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of Steve Stockton and Steve's books can

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be found on amazon.com

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so Steve my friend thanks for coming on

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this evening well glad to be here Lon

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thanks for that introduction I wish I

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had a better show for you now

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all right we're gonna have some fun well

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you know what I'm gonna do tonight I'm

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gonna open it up for the audience to ask

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you questions and uh but there is one

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question I do want to ask you and that

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is you know

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out of all your encounters or and you

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know your investigations which one of

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those sticks with you the most

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well as as far as the the missing

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persons cases uh it would have to be the

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Dennis Martin case and the Great Smoky

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Mountains happened Father's Day 1969. uh

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Dennis was just about a year older than

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was at the time and um we're from the

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same town same Knoxville and uh he'd

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gone up there with his father and

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brother and grandfather to spend

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Father's Day in Spence field which is up

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above Kate's Cove and uh met another

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family up there also named the Martins

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one of just those little 40 and

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coincidences that happened a lot of

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times in these cases uh no relation I

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and the kids were playing together and

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they either played hide and seek or

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trying to sneak up and scare the adults

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Dennis's father watched him go around

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behind some brush

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and then later when the other boys

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came out no Dennis and they said we

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haven't seen him since we were playing

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his father walked around the pile of

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brush into the pile of brush no dinners

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the grandfather took off down to the

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ranger station to get some help and his

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dad took off in a run down the

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Appalachian Trail which is just right

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there at the edge of Spence field

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and uh no sign of him been missing ever

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since in that case has always stuck with

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um now I'd already had paranormal

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experiences and Things by then and

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I I really lost my innocence it was the

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first time I realized that yes a kid can

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go missing and not show up no sign of

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him nothing ever found I followed the

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local news uh for years and and clipped

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out to everything I could find I still

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have a couple scrapbooks full of stuff

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but that one more than anything as far

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as a missing person's case no that

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sticks with me that one haunts me

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okay

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well you know they're and you and I

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talked about this uh we had family that

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you know from that area and um you know

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you've mentioned to me that your

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great-grandmother was full blood

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Cherokee mine was too

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and uh I've heard so many tales from up

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there in the Smoky Mountains from from

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relatives

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uh and uh it's just a strange area I

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mean you know people talk about well

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some call them the booger some of them

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call them wild men my own great uncle

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used to call it a wild man used to mess

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with these still all the time

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um you know so uh yeah the stories are

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are there's a lot of them that come out

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of there you know of course you got

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people that come across the the

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Appalachian Trail and they come down and

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you hear lots of stories from them

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but it's just it's just an interesting

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area

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yeah the whole Appalachian range starts

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in Georgia goes all the way up uh into

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Maine and I've never through hiked it

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but I've hiked on a lot of it and

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there's just some strange places

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particularly in the southern

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Appalachians and my granny on my

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mother's side she was from the Cades

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Cove area grew up there and according to

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her there was a hint or a booger and

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never holler and yeah the booger could

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be anything a wild man some kind of

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weird Cryptid there was always some

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story of something you had to be careful

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out there in the woods and then on the

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Cherokee side they had all kinds of

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Legends and lore and shapeshifters of

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things like spear finger things like

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that that they would admonish you for

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even talking about don't even speak its

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name aloud you'll draw it to you don't

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even think about it and you'd get in

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trouble for some of that but the smokies

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in particular you know there's hauntings

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there's Bigfoot sightings there's other

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Cryptids there's strange disappearances

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uh just the whole gamut

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yeah I I know it it's been it was

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difficult to get stories out of out of

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the uh First Nations people and the

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people in Cherokee

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you know very similar to what we

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experience out in uh the Donate Navajo

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reservation uh the older folks out there

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they will not talk about Skin Walkers or

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anything related to that and it's you

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know a little correction there he said I

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lived in Portland Oregon I moved from

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there in July I'm in uh the high desert

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in New Mexico now right in the edge oh

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really Navajo Nation reservation the DNA

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I went in the post office the other day

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to mail some books off had on a Bigfoot

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t-shirt now the whole guy waited on me

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he said let me get some info from you

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I've got some stories I'll tell you so

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I'm looking forward to that but yeah out

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here of Skin Walkers uh shape shifters a

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little bit everything the Four Corners

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isn't that far away

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um are you around Farmington yeah I'm in

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Farmington good girl yes there I just

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just a few miles south of Durango

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Colorado and I love it up here

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yeah you know I promised JC so many

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times I was going to come out there and

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tag along with him just did

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unfortunately it just never happened but

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uh man I'm telling you some of the stuff

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had come out of it over the years just

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unbelievable the DNA magic there was a

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Infamous Syria or a murder uh just over

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the hill here in a place called Choke

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Cherry Canyon I know what I heard 70s

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you know about that one well the kids

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that perpetrated that they were high

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school kids but they ended up killing a

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native of the Navajo dine person and

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they got off with a slap on the wrist

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and there was a shaman thought that

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ain't going to happen but a curse on

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them every single one of them died under

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mysterious circumstances there's a

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really good book about that can't

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remember the gentleman's name but I

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believe it's called the circle

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well yeah I have to look for that I love

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I love those stories I love those uh and

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I've been up there Choke Cherry Canyon

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um if you go to My Band Camp Page

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bandcamp.stevesstockton.com I'm doing

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some spoken word over there my picture

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that I use for that is uh that was made

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in silk Cherry Canyon and there's just

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there's an eerie feeling up there I mean

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not only because of the murder but just

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because of the other stuff I've got a

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really good friend that's lived here for

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a long time went to high school here and

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uh she told me about an encounter she'd

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had her her and some friends are out

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near Choke Cherry Canyon one night

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and an old lady came up this dirt road

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just just booking a little old granny

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lady and uh scared him out of there they

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thought that was probably some kind

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there we go Rodney Barker the broken

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Circle

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that is an excellent excellent read

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definitely gonna have to put that on my

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list I gotta yeah I love those stories

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uh you know every once in a while you

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can get one of the younger ones to

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entice them to talk about it a story

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that came out of their their

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grandparents or whoever but uh the older

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folks nope it ain't gonna happen I I

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have tried and it just is not gonna it's

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just not gonna happen so um it's

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interesting I uh but I I you know those

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years that I did

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work with JC and and listen to his tales

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and the things that he had been

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investigating up and also some of the

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the guys who were with the Navajo police

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and some of the cases they were involved

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with it yeah cops show watch that

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episode called the howler yeah that'll

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put they'll stand the hair up on the

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back of your neck

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yeah and uh you know I have I have

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talked to one of the guys that did that

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show and JC said that's absolutely true

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he said they have been talking about

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that thing for years and years and years

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things that are unexplained the fact

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that there have been so many residents

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reservation residents who have had

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encounters with Bigfoot and some of

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these these uh

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even even crypto canines other than Skin

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Walkers I mean you know

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um it's it's interesting I mean and uh

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you know when I can get it when I can

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get a story like that I look oh I'm

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looking forward to it uh you know that's

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the first thing that goes up

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yeah definitely and that's the thing

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about skin walker at The Shape Shifter

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it can be anything it Compares a person

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an animal uh some sort of weird creature

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and that's that's all throughout this

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area and uh not only the Navajo or the

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DNA but uh the youth the sleeping youth

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they're just up the road going toward

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Durango and they've got a lot of stories

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now the Legends differ somewhat just

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more of a colloquial killing of it but

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it's still kind of the same thing it's

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they've all got those the same with the

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Cherokee in the Smokies the Western band

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of the Cherokee there they've got shape

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shifters they've got Skin Walkers

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they've got Harry Giants they've got

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little people a little bit of everything

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yeah I don't think you can really find a

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a First Nations tribe that doesn't have

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some type of folklore that's very

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similar to that you know around here we

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have a few that from the old Susquehanna

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that most of those died out pretty

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quickly or have gotten moved off uh but

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there's been a lot of uh a lot of Shawn

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details here and of course they moved

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back down south into uh into Ohio and

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West Virginia but

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um yeah there's been a lot of tribes

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here so we have heard a lot of different

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things and it's it's Nationwide you go

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up into New England or the Algonquins

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they've got similar stories uh when I

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lived in the Pacific Northwest uh the

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Yakima tribe and there's another one

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there in Washington state I can't

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remember but they had the same thing

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with the little people and and spoke

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lights in the woods and hairy Giants a

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lot a lot of Bigfoot Sasquatch activity

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in the Pacific Northwest only had one

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Brief Encounter where I saw something

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that I thought may have been in a

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Bigfoot it was it looked like a person

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but it was huge and it was walking down

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a country road and when it passed under

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a Street Lamp it had a Sheen or a shine

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to it I walked past the stop sign I went

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up there because I first I was going to

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go after it and try to get a picture

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heard my granny in the back of my head

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saying you need to get in the house

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that's what you need to do so the next

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day I went up there and measured where

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the stop sign was then whoever it was

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would have been seven or eight feet tall

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to see where I saw the top of their

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their head that domed head you know it

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just it looked like a Sasquatch and it

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just just walking down the road I never

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thought of anything like that

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uh and then I saw a footprint uh below

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the snow line up near uh I think that

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was I was around your Colt Washington

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that time and the mountains near there

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that was in the Gifford Pinchot National

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Forest a lot of sightings there I've

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been up Mount St Helens uh Mount Rainier

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Olympic National Park Olympic National

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Forest it's just it's Rife with him up

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there

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um

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absolutely and folks if you've got a

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question in the chat feel free to put it

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up there and uh we'll we'll get it over

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to Steve you know he talked about around

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the uh up in New England around what

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people call the Bridgewater Triangle

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that area up there you know I think that

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one of the scariest incidents I and I

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was young too I was in my senior year

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Hospital

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we were up in uh we were up in Plymouth

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Massachusetts we were doing actually an

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exchange concert up there and I you know

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I knew that I had some abilities that by

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that time

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and uh we I happened to go out with my

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host that night it was at night and uh

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they were driving us around the out in

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the rural areas and we went over to mile

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Standish

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uh Park I guess it's a state park

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and I don't know what the hell it was at

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night but we walked out I I tell you I

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walked out there

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and I couldn't stand there more than

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five minutes I had to get in the car it

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was like I've been in some places like

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that and just yeah it's like other

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places up there in New England the the

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infamous Bridgewater Triangle and

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there's also Bennington triangle I've

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covered some disappearances up there and

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uh there was one place in particular

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there was a Bigfoot signing a guy on the

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uh Stagecoach Road had gotten the

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stagecoach stuck in the mud and was

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trying to get that taken care of and

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some kind of hairy giant thing came out

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of the woods appeared in the stagecoach

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at the people flipped it over and then

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screamed and ran off into the woods I

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guess he didn't like their look and uh

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another interesting case up there there

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was a person found that looked like they

402
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had been squeezed to death in the woods

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a hunter that had gone missing

404
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and then you hear a lot about Boulder

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Fields well the Algonquin have a story

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of a creature that can appear as a

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boulder and when somebody passes by it

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opens up and swallows you and then spits

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you back out well there's been cases

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where people that have been missing have

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are found in a Boulder Field that's been

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searched previously and they look like

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they've fallen from a considerable

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height when there was no place for them

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to fall from is that right well you

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think about that if some kind of rock

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creature swallows you smashed you got

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whatever it needed out of it and spit

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you back out in a Boulder Field you

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might look like you'd fallen from a

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considerable height

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you know that reminds me some stories I

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had gotten from an area around

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Cooperstown New York uh

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were and I had a couple people tell me

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about this apparently there's a bluff

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not far out of town where people have

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actually seen the Rocks open up and

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they've seen

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gnomes or fairies or whatever come out

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of these things and they they're said to

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grab people I I think they have a couple

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of incidents where people have been

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supposedly taken just never returned uh

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you know you do hear a lot of weird

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stuff like that up in these older areas

437
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of you know the older populated areas of

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the United States and New England in

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particular yeah a lot a lot of folklore

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a lot of stories up there out west too I

441
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spent some time on Mount Shasta back in

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the spring yeah boy that place I was

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outside at about two o'clock in the

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morning and I'd already seen some lights

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way up on the mountains just I don't

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know what it was it was weird but I'd

447
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gone out about two o'clock in the

448
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morning and I felt like I was being

449
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watched and I just wheeled around real

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quick and it was the mountain the

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mountain it feels like the mountains

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watching you up there that's a strange

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strange place up there and they have

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those strange lights they have the

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lenticular clouds a lot of

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disappearances there Tales of an

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underground city Lemire the infamous

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robot Grandma uh case up there where the

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little boy was supposedly taken into a

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cave and it's just I I want to go back

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I've got plans to go back to Shasta this

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summer and uh it's just that whole area

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around there uh dunsmere weed McLeod

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there's been all kind of fairy sightings

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and Bigfoot and strange creatures of

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mountain opening up uh people in white

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robes that they've spotted way up on the

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slope with a telescope and one of the

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most interesting Bigfoot accounts I

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heard ever came from there

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a lady claimed that she was there in the

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springtime and saw what she described as

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a female Bigfoot giving birth on the

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slope and then another lady totally

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unrelated didn't know one another didn't

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know about one another a year later she

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claimed to have seen in the same area a

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female Bigfoot nursing a baby Bigfoot so

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there you go Mr verse the other a year

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later saw her nursing the baby so

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you know I've heard a couple Tales from

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back in the late 1800s and he was around

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that time where people had would be on

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train you know uh going around Mount

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Shasta and talk about seeing Bigfoot up

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on the mountain or out on the fields

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down on the downslope and stuff uh yeah

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I mean there are a lot of Story I mean

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Mount Shasta is just bizarre uh I've got

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a friend who goes out there every year

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on Retreat and uh yeah it's uh he

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wouldn't miss it it's

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compelling uh like I was coming down

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from Portland and when you come down the

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I-5 and you first go around that curve

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where you can see shast off in the

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distance it's just it's Majestic but

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it's it's eerie there's just there's

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some strange energy some strange forces

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at work there you go down into the town

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there there's still a lot of uh New Age

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shops a lot of influence there from some

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of the occult and medical metaphysical

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practices that were popular around the

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turn of the last century but it's it's

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definitely a strange energy there hmm

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well I do have some questions uh ajk

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asks Steve is your current house haunted

509
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yes in fact it is this very room that

510
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I'm in here I've got I've turned this

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into a basically a broadcast house I've

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got a live studio in the living room of

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the fireplace Studio A is in one of the

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middle rooms that's where I do my audio

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recording and then I've got this set up

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in here now for uh live streams and

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stuff uh there's a bathroom here to my

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left well in the 80s there was a lady

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that lived here that had terminal breast

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cancer she decided she wasn't going to

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let it take her so um she took matters

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into her own hands and swallowed a

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bottle of something and died in the

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bathroom floor there and um

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there's there's been some activity here

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I mean prior to me living here and since

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I've been here

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and uh

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well I'll just I'll go ahead and tell

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the story one morning I was praying I'm

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a Christian I pray and several times a

532
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day I was praying and I heard this older

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female voice from this end of the house

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say God gave me breast cancer and that

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was before I knew the history of the

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house well I rebuked that you know that

537
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that's not the way God works and after

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00:21:51,049 --> 00:21:48,240
that it seemed to clear up back here but

539
00:21:52,549 --> 00:21:51,059
there was a a heaviness a darkness in

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this end of the house especially in that

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bathroom I'm not sure how long she was

542
00:22:00,529 --> 00:21:58,140
there before they found her and then uh

543
00:22:02,690 --> 00:22:00,539
Sandy the lady that I bought the house

544
00:22:05,270 --> 00:22:02,700
from she's my channel manager and

545
00:22:07,610 --> 00:22:05,280
partner over on 13 past midnight she had

546
00:22:10,610 --> 00:22:07,620
lived here and uh she seen a little boy

547
00:22:13,130 --> 00:22:10,620
about eight or nine years old face to

548
00:22:15,730 --> 00:22:13,140
face and uh one night back in the summer

549
00:22:18,169 --> 00:22:15,740
we were sitting out on the the back deck

550
00:22:19,789 --> 00:22:18,179
patio area back there had our computers

551
00:22:23,690 --> 00:22:19,799
out there it's nice in the desert at

552
00:22:25,970 --> 00:22:23,700
night and I saw the the kitchen curtain

553
00:22:28,070 --> 00:22:25,980
on the the door there doesn't come right

554
00:22:31,430 --> 00:22:28,080
all the way down there's about a five or

555
00:22:33,490 --> 00:22:31,440
six inch Gap a window below that and I

556
00:22:36,289 --> 00:22:33,500
saw the top of some kid's head

557
00:22:37,610 --> 00:22:36,299
passed through the kitchen and also

558
00:22:40,250 --> 00:22:37,620
while we were out there A lot of times

559
00:22:42,590 --> 00:22:40,260
the lights in both bathrooms would come

560
00:22:44,029 --> 00:22:42,600
on and I would come in and it wasn't a

561
00:22:45,950 --> 00:22:44,039
short or anything like that the switch

562
00:22:48,830 --> 00:22:45,960
would actually physically be flipped up

563
00:22:50,270 --> 00:22:48,840
and have to turn it back off so yeah

564
00:22:53,690 --> 00:22:50,280
there's some things here now I've

565
00:22:56,210 --> 00:22:53,700
smudged I believe that that part from my

566
00:22:59,090 --> 00:22:56,220
Cherokee Heritage I smudge I use sea

567
00:23:01,010 --> 00:22:59,100
salt things like that and haven't had

568
00:23:02,570 --> 00:23:01,020
any trouble or anything recently but

569
00:23:05,570 --> 00:23:02,580
there was there's definitely been some

570
00:23:07,370 --> 00:23:05,580
activity here hmm

571
00:23:09,950 --> 00:23:07,380
yeah you know I can't say I've ever

572
00:23:10,850 --> 00:23:09,960
lived in a haunted house you know I

573
00:23:13,310 --> 00:23:10,860
don't know

574
00:23:14,270 --> 00:23:13,320
have

575
00:23:16,430 --> 00:23:14,280
um

576
00:23:18,169 --> 00:23:16,440
which is interesting I the place I live

577
00:23:21,409 --> 00:23:18,179
right now I'm right beside a big

578
00:23:24,049 --> 00:23:21,419
Catholic Cemetery and I haven't felt a

579
00:23:26,390 --> 00:23:24,059
thing and I've been here this is St

580
00:23:29,510 --> 00:23:26,400
John's the Revelator said that the dead

581
00:23:32,510 --> 00:23:29,520
don't come back but sometimes they stay

582
00:23:34,490 --> 00:23:32,520
um yeah and I I'm just the opposite of

583
00:23:36,529 --> 00:23:34,500
every house I've ever lived in was

584
00:23:38,930 --> 00:23:36,539
haunted to a degree or had some sort of

585
00:23:40,789 --> 00:23:38,940
activity and I came to realization a few

586
00:23:43,190 --> 00:23:40,799
years ago talking with a friend of mine

587
00:23:45,110 --> 00:23:43,200
who's a sensitive towards such things

588
00:23:48,950 --> 00:23:45,120
she said it's not the houses it's you

589
00:23:51,169 --> 00:23:48,960
it's that activity is attracted to you

590
00:23:53,690 --> 00:23:51,179
and for example when I lived in Las

591
00:23:56,510 --> 00:23:53,700
Vegas for about 10 years very very

592
00:23:58,850 --> 00:23:56,520
active house there my housemate she

593
00:24:00,409 --> 00:23:58,860
didn't see or hear anything I saw all

594
00:24:02,630 --> 00:24:00,419
kinds of stuff she did have one

595
00:24:05,630 --> 00:24:02,640
experience that finally made a Believer

596
00:24:08,149 --> 00:24:05,640
out of her but uh other than that it all

597
00:24:09,649 --> 00:24:08,159
happened to me

598
00:24:19,730 --> 00:24:09,659
um

599
00:24:22,789 --> 00:24:19,740
Faye Etc are increasing and if so why I

600
00:24:24,770 --> 00:24:22,799
do I've talked to people about that and

601
00:24:27,230 --> 00:24:24,780
for whatever reason and however you

602
00:24:29,930 --> 00:24:27,240
believe the veil whatever the veil is

603
00:24:31,669 --> 00:24:29,940
the thing between this world and the

604
00:24:33,370 --> 00:24:31,679
next one you know there's certain times

605
00:24:36,470 --> 00:24:33,380
of the year that they claim it's thin

606
00:24:40,130 --> 00:24:36,480
All Hallows Eve that's that's one of the

607
00:24:42,110 --> 00:24:40,140
nights but I've heard people say oh

608
00:24:45,049 --> 00:24:42,120
sorry my cat knocked something over here

609
00:24:48,289 --> 00:24:45,059
hey don't don't feel bad I got one too

610
00:24:50,750 --> 00:24:48,299
but I've heard people say that that Veil

611
00:24:54,230 --> 00:24:50,760
is thinning and not just certain times a

612
00:24:57,890 --> 00:24:54,240
year or during a certain times of the

613
00:24:59,270 --> 00:24:57,900
the moon or um The Equinox or uh

614
00:25:01,310 --> 00:24:59,280
Solstice or whatever but it's getting

615
00:25:03,230 --> 00:25:01,320
thinner all the time so I think yeah

616
00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:03,240
we're seeing more activity we're seeing

617
00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:06,480
things ramp up and again I don't know if

618
00:25:11,810 --> 00:25:09,360
it's just that the internet you know has

619
00:25:14,810 --> 00:25:11,820
made the world a smaller place and we're

620
00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:14,820
more aware of stuff or if if it has

621
00:25:19,610 --> 00:25:16,320
actually

622
00:25:21,470 --> 00:25:19,620
I I believe it's it's getting uh thinner

623
00:25:23,210 --> 00:25:21,480
I believe that what what that person

624
00:25:27,169 --> 00:25:23,220
told me and the way they explained it to

625
00:25:29,390 --> 00:25:27,179
me because everything's on the increase

626
00:25:32,450 --> 00:25:29,400
you know I uh I I kind of agree with

627
00:25:34,310 --> 00:25:32,460
that because uh it's true more people

628
00:25:36,950 --> 00:25:34,320
are talking about it less people are

629
00:25:39,049 --> 00:25:36,960
inhibitive about talking about it they

630
00:25:40,730 --> 00:25:39,059
feel less chance of being ridiculed

631
00:25:42,850 --> 00:25:40,740
because it's way out in the mainstream

632
00:25:47,269 --> 00:25:42,860
now with the internet and TV and such

633
00:25:48,890 --> 00:25:47,279
and I think because of that the the veil

634
00:25:51,110 --> 00:25:48,900
may be thinning somewhat it may be

635
00:25:53,090 --> 00:25:51,120
opening up more and I think so because

636
00:25:54,710 --> 00:25:53,100
there's been other times when there's

637
00:25:56,630 --> 00:25:54,720
like a golden age you know the

638
00:25:58,310 --> 00:25:56,640
spiritualism movement and things around

639
00:26:01,130 --> 00:25:58,320
the turn of the last century people were

640
00:26:02,810 --> 00:26:01,140
aware of it people talked about it uh my

641
00:26:06,049 --> 00:26:02,820
granny on my mother's side that's what

642
00:26:09,529 --> 00:26:06,059
they came out of my mother was born in

643
00:26:11,570 --> 00:26:09,539
1927 and I'm a late in life unexpected

644
00:26:15,169 --> 00:26:11,580
baby but uh when she was a little girl

645
00:26:17,810 --> 00:26:15,179
her family routinely had seances held

646
00:26:20,510 --> 00:26:17,820
table tappings use the spirit board or

647
00:26:22,430 --> 00:26:20,520
Ouija board my grandmother was a

648
00:26:23,870 --> 00:26:22,440
self-proclaimed Gypsy witch now I don't

649
00:26:26,269 --> 00:26:23,880
know where she got the Gypsy part

650
00:26:28,370 --> 00:26:26,279
because she was from Cades Cove but I'm

651
00:26:30,529 --> 00:26:28,380
thinking somewhere are way back in the

652
00:26:33,649 --> 00:26:30,539
lineage there was some old country that

653
00:26:37,250 --> 00:26:33,659
they came from but uh she told fortunes

654
00:26:38,870 --> 00:26:37,260
red tea leaves coffee grounds uh

655
00:26:40,490 --> 00:26:38,880
different types of cars she wouldn't

656
00:26:42,950 --> 00:26:40,500
touch tarot cards she said there was

657
00:26:45,890 --> 00:26:42,960
something dark about tarot cards that

658
00:26:48,230 --> 00:26:45,900
she didn't like but they were into that

659
00:26:49,669 --> 00:26:48,240
whole thing so I come by it honest on on

660
00:26:53,870 --> 00:26:49,679
that side

661
00:26:56,570 --> 00:26:53,880
but yeah well me too I uh I come from

662
00:26:59,810 --> 00:26:56,580
pow wows and uh you know the southern

663
00:27:02,149 --> 00:26:59,820
root conjures and stuff and uh

664
00:27:03,649 --> 00:27:02,159
yeah it's almost the same you go up and

665
00:27:06,049 --> 00:27:03,659
down the Appalachians you're going to

666
00:27:08,210 --> 00:27:06,059
run into all kinds of uh folk healing

667
00:27:10,010 --> 00:27:08,220
and such and uh yeah here in

668
00:27:10,730 --> 00:27:10,020
Pennsylvania it was the pow hours I've

669
00:27:13,370 --> 00:27:10,740
had

670
00:27:15,769 --> 00:27:13,380
some relatives that was on my mother's

671
00:27:17,810 --> 00:27:15,779
side now my dad's side uh his mother

672
00:27:19,310 --> 00:27:17,820
they back in the Hills where they lived

673
00:27:21,529 --> 00:27:19,320
over on the Cumberland plateau of Middle

674
00:27:25,490 --> 00:27:21,539
Tennessee they called her a yard doctor

675
00:27:27,890 --> 00:27:25,500
or an herb doctor and she also cut hair

676
00:27:31,010 --> 00:27:27,900
pulled teeth and ran the post office

677
00:27:33,830 --> 00:27:31,020
from her front porch and uh what used to

678
00:27:35,990 --> 00:27:33,840
be called been Stockton Tennessee it's a

679
00:27:38,529 --> 00:27:36,000
DNX by Jamestown it's part of Jamestown

680
00:27:41,810 --> 00:27:38,539
now but yeah the old family home there

681
00:27:43,310 --> 00:27:41,820
there was a like a Dutch door to one

682
00:27:45,470 --> 00:27:43,320
side of the porch and that's where you

683
00:27:47,149 --> 00:27:45,480
can come do your business I've still got

684
00:27:49,850 --> 00:27:47,159
the old things that she used to cancel

685
00:27:52,010 --> 00:27:49,860
the letters with and the pen set that

686
00:27:54,169 --> 00:27:52,020
she had on her desk but yeah you come

687
00:27:56,510 --> 00:27:54,179
get your mail should pull your teeth cut

688
00:27:58,190 --> 00:27:56,520
your hair fix up some kind of herbal

689
00:28:01,490 --> 00:27:58,200
poultice or something that either carry

690
00:28:03,169 --> 00:28:01,500
or kill you according to my dad one time

691
00:28:05,450 --> 00:28:03,179
I think they they had he and his

692
00:28:08,330 --> 00:28:05,460
siblings had the measles and she made

693
00:28:10,010 --> 00:28:08,340
sheep manure tea and made them drink it

694
00:28:12,409 --> 00:28:10,020
and he said you talk about something

695
00:28:14,930 --> 00:28:12,419
that'll carry you he said I didn't want

696
00:28:16,669 --> 00:28:14,940
another dose he said I will those

697
00:28:19,730 --> 00:28:16,679
measles to go away because I wasn't

698
00:28:21,710 --> 00:28:19,740
drinking any more sheep manure tea so

699
00:28:24,590 --> 00:28:21,720
let's run into a lot of stuff like that

700
00:28:26,690 --> 00:28:24,600
but she was wise inner wise a lot of

701
00:28:28,610 --> 00:28:26,700
wisdom she taught me that you know out

702
00:28:30,590 --> 00:28:28,620
in the woods anything that will hurt you

703
00:28:33,049 --> 00:28:30,600
there's something near there that will

704
00:28:35,930 --> 00:28:33,059
either cure you heal you or help you

705
00:28:37,909 --> 00:28:35,940
like if you get snake bit there's plants

706
00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:37,919
that grow or snakes are that you can

707
00:28:42,230 --> 00:28:39,840
treat a snake bite with if you get

708
00:28:43,850 --> 00:28:42,240
poison ivy there's something that grows

709
00:28:46,190 --> 00:28:43,860
near that that you can put on the poison

710
00:28:49,190 --> 00:28:46,200
ivy so there's I mean those people

711
00:28:52,210 --> 00:28:49,200
survived uh the Great Depression the

712
00:28:55,669 --> 00:28:52,220
world wars the the Spanish-American War

713
00:28:58,070 --> 00:28:55,679
those great influenza epidemics and

714
00:29:00,049 --> 00:28:58,080
pandemics that happened back then they

715
00:29:01,789 --> 00:29:00,059
had something going for them oh

716
00:29:03,890 --> 00:29:01,799
absolutely they lived I mean the

717
00:29:05,630 --> 00:29:03,900
absolute middle of nowhere it was miles

718
00:29:09,230 --> 00:29:05,640
to town

719
00:29:11,630 --> 00:29:09,240
you know my uh my grandparents all grew

720
00:29:14,409 --> 00:29:11,640
up during the uh during the Depression

721
00:29:17,210 --> 00:29:14,419
and even before that and uh

722
00:29:19,190 --> 00:29:17,220
it's uh

723
00:29:21,230 --> 00:29:19,200
some of the stories you hear and you

724
00:29:24,769 --> 00:29:21,240
think you know even you know you hear

725
00:29:27,409 --> 00:29:24,779
that term the Greek the the uh

726
00:29:28,970 --> 00:29:27,419
uh the greatest generation and there's

727
00:29:31,909 --> 00:29:28,980
something to that because those people

728
00:29:34,190 --> 00:29:31,919
put up a lot of different stuff you talk

729
00:29:36,529 --> 00:29:34,200
about World War One and the Spanish flu

730
00:29:40,070 --> 00:29:36,539
then the depression and you know it's

731
00:29:42,830 --> 00:29:40,080
like oh my God they you know yeah and uh

732
00:29:44,510 --> 00:29:42,840
my dad's family it was almost like the

733
00:29:47,450 --> 00:29:44,520
the Potato Famine over there he said

734
00:29:49,669 --> 00:29:47,460
there was days and weeks that potatoes

735
00:29:51,350 --> 00:29:49,679
was all they had to eat he said they ate

736
00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:51,360
so many potatoes at all the tummel bugs

737
00:30:00,889 --> 00:29:58,490
but uh occasionally you know they they

738
00:30:04,370 --> 00:30:00,899
were farmers and uh yeah the crop

739
00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:04,380
farmers and rice tobacco Hogs the cattle

740
00:30:08,930 --> 00:30:07,440
things like that and uh and he said he

741
00:30:11,810 --> 00:30:08,940
remembers one time that all they had to

742
00:30:14,630 --> 00:30:11,820
eat was potatoes for a long time and uh

743
00:30:17,029 --> 00:30:14,640
his dad poppy they call him poppy sold a

744
00:30:20,750 --> 00:30:17,039
calf and uh went to town and came back

745
00:30:23,330 --> 00:30:20,760
with uh sacks of flour and meal and uh

746
00:30:24,889 --> 00:30:23,340
bacon and all this stuff that uh I mean

747
00:30:26,750 --> 00:30:24,899
they had animals but they they didn't

748
00:30:28,490 --> 00:30:26,760
process the meat themselves they just

749
00:30:31,549 --> 00:30:28,500
sold the livestock

750
00:30:33,529 --> 00:30:31,559
so they they had it rough I mean uh

751
00:30:36,169 --> 00:30:33,539
electricity they didn't have electricity

752
00:30:38,630 --> 00:30:36,179
until my dad was in elementary school

753
00:30:41,450 --> 00:30:38,640
anyway and even then it was a series of

754
00:30:44,090 --> 00:30:41,460
batteries that looked like fish tanks

755
00:30:47,870 --> 00:30:44,100
I've got one of the old batteries and

756
00:30:49,610 --> 00:30:47,880
casinos maybe one light bulb and the

757
00:30:51,649 --> 00:30:49,620
radio they would listen to the Grand Ole

758
00:30:52,909 --> 00:30:51,659
Opry and stuff like that whatever they

759
00:30:55,850 --> 00:30:52,919
could pick up over there in the

760
00:30:57,409 --> 00:30:55,860
mountains well I can't imagine they

761
00:30:59,149 --> 00:30:57,419
didn't have running water in that house

762
00:31:01,430 --> 00:30:59,159
until

763
00:31:04,970 --> 00:31:01,440
um probably sometime in the 80s there

764
00:31:07,070 --> 00:31:04,980
was uh a well outside that you could you

765
00:31:10,370 --> 00:31:07,080
know the old the pump handle that you

766
00:31:12,590 --> 00:31:10,380
could draw water from but after my my

767
00:31:14,930 --> 00:31:12,600
dad's last brother passed away and my

768
00:31:16,490 --> 00:31:14,940
cousin moved in over there that's and

769
00:31:19,789 --> 00:31:16,500
sometime in the early 80s probably

770
00:31:22,070 --> 00:31:19,799
around 83. but before they had the house

771
00:31:23,690 --> 00:31:22,080
plumbed so though that was a Hard

772
00:31:26,330 --> 00:31:23,700
Scrabble existence

773
00:31:30,470 --> 00:31:26,340
and uh oh absolutely I mean I've heard

774
00:31:32,090 --> 00:31:30,480
so many things and um you know thank God

775
00:31:33,710 --> 00:31:32,100
for our grandmas and grandfathers

776
00:31:36,769 --> 00:31:33,720
because some of the stories we have been

777
00:31:38,330 --> 00:31:36,779
told I mean you really appreciate what

778
00:31:40,669 --> 00:31:38,340
you've got after hearing what they've

779
00:31:44,389 --> 00:31:40,679
gone through and and how they became

780
00:31:48,289 --> 00:31:44,399
successful in life and had families and

781
00:31:50,510 --> 00:31:48,299
it is it it's um and

782
00:31:51,889 --> 00:31:50,520
you know I I will cherish all that I

783
00:31:54,889 --> 00:31:51,899
mean you know especially my grandmother

784
00:31:57,110 --> 00:31:54,899
my grandmother told me and she insisted

785
00:32:01,490 --> 00:31:57,120
that I knew the family history she lived

786
00:32:05,210 --> 00:32:01,500
103. and uh born born the year of the

787
00:32:06,950 --> 00:32:05,220
Titanic and the Titanic's thinking and

788
00:32:09,289 --> 00:32:06,960
she uh

789
00:32:11,330 --> 00:32:09,299
she did she she made sure that her

790
00:32:13,549 --> 00:32:11,340
grandson was going to know about the

791
00:32:17,149 --> 00:32:13,559
family and you know but all sides of the

792
00:32:19,250 --> 00:32:17,159
family and uh yeah and my grandmother on

793
00:32:20,930 --> 00:32:19,260
my mom's side was that way but not so

794
00:32:23,330 --> 00:32:20,940
much with the family history but all the

795
00:32:26,090 --> 00:32:23,340
folklore the superstitions

796
00:32:29,149 --> 00:32:26,100
um I was your favorite child uh she had

797
00:32:31,789 --> 00:32:29,159
10 kids uh nine boys and one girl my mom

798
00:32:33,350 --> 00:32:31,799
being the only girl so I had a lot of

799
00:32:36,049 --> 00:32:33,360
cousins because each one of those boys

800
00:32:37,789 --> 00:32:36,059
was married at least once some of them

801
00:32:41,210 --> 00:32:37,799
multiple times had one uncle that used

802
00:32:43,430 --> 00:32:41,220
to say uh he'd been married uh six times

803
00:32:45,169 --> 00:32:43,440
to seven women or seven times the six

804
00:32:46,789 --> 00:32:45,179
women and he said that was the only

805
00:32:49,130 --> 00:32:46,799
mistake I ever made was marrying the

806
00:32:51,830 --> 00:32:49,140
same one twice it sounds like you made

807
00:32:54,649 --> 00:32:51,840
more than one mistake there huh but uh

808
00:32:57,850 --> 00:32:54,659
out of all those cousins uh I was born

809
00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:57,860
with a veil or a call over my face

810
00:33:03,950 --> 00:33:00,720
it's the after birth the amniotic sack

811
00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:03,960
my grandmother was there for my birth uh

812
00:33:08,389 --> 00:33:05,760
my mom they'd given her Twilight sleep

813
00:33:10,610 --> 00:33:08,399
and she was out of it but in my granny's

814
00:33:12,950 --> 00:33:10,620
Superstition size that marked me as a

815
00:33:14,750 --> 00:33:12,960
special child oh absolutely second side

816
00:33:18,230 --> 00:33:14,760
and all this so out of all the cousins

817
00:33:20,330 --> 00:33:18,240
all our grandchildren I was the one and

818
00:33:21,889 --> 00:33:20,340
uh go to her house she'd take me into

819
00:33:23,750 --> 00:33:21,899
her sewing room she lived in a big old

820
00:33:25,610 --> 00:33:23,760
Victorian farmhouse

821
00:33:27,470 --> 00:33:25,620
and uh

822
00:33:30,409 --> 00:33:27,480
take her take me into the what had been

823
00:33:32,930 --> 00:33:30,419
the dining room big formal dining room

824
00:33:34,370 --> 00:33:32,940
she turned it into a sewing room uh in

825
00:33:38,210 --> 00:33:34,380
the wintertime she'd sit in there with

826
00:33:40,549 --> 00:33:38,220
one of my aunts and piece quilts and uh

827
00:33:43,430 --> 00:33:40,559
she would get me in there by myself and

828
00:33:45,649 --> 00:33:43,440
and make me tell her back you know

829
00:33:47,870 --> 00:33:45,659
whatever story she was telling me to how

830
00:33:50,930 --> 00:33:47,880
to avoid bad luck how to get good luck

831
00:33:52,370 --> 00:33:50,940
to you all that stuff you know and and I

832
00:33:54,529 --> 00:33:52,380
was afraid of it to be honest with you

833
00:33:56,630 --> 00:33:54,539
when I was a kid she looked like a witch

834
00:33:59,330 --> 00:33:56,640
she had arthritis so she's kind of

835
00:34:01,250 --> 00:33:59,340
humped over and hands are kind of

836
00:34:03,409 --> 00:34:01,260
and uh

837
00:34:06,110 --> 00:34:03,419
but she passed away when I was 13 years

838
00:34:08,450 --> 00:34:06,120
old and I wish I'd had another 13 years

839
00:34:10,609 --> 00:34:08,460
to spend with her I'm working on a book

840
00:34:12,050 --> 00:34:10,619
about her and some of the things she

841
00:34:14,750 --> 00:34:12,060
told me and some of the things she said

842
00:34:16,790 --> 00:34:14,760
but she knew things she had no way of

843
00:34:18,770 --> 00:34:16,800
knowing I remember one time we were

844
00:34:21,290 --> 00:34:18,780
going to visit her and there was a about

845
00:34:23,930 --> 00:34:21,300
25 miles away and there was a house we

846
00:34:26,389 --> 00:34:23,940
had to drive by where years and years

847
00:34:27,889 --> 00:34:26,399
prior uh the kid was playing in the yard

848
00:34:30,829 --> 00:34:27,899
chased a ball out into the street

849
00:34:31,550 --> 00:34:30,839
tragically got ran over and killed and

850
00:34:33,710 --> 00:34:31,560
uh

851
00:34:35,930 --> 00:34:33,720
my mom had told me that's a cautionary

852
00:34:37,970 --> 00:34:35,940
tale and just had pointed the house out

853
00:34:40,129 --> 00:34:37,980
to me at one time well every time I

854
00:34:42,169 --> 00:34:40,139
drove by there that house I'd just feel

855
00:34:44,389 --> 00:34:42,179
get to the weird feeling you know that

856
00:34:46,609 --> 00:34:44,399
little tingling in the back of my head

857
00:34:48,109 --> 00:34:46,619
and uh one day we were headed to her

858
00:34:49,609 --> 00:34:48,119
house and I was laying down in the back

859
00:34:51,369 --> 00:34:49,619
seat reading the comic book wasn't

860
00:34:53,690 --> 00:34:51,379
paying any attention to where we're at

861
00:34:55,669 --> 00:34:53,700
felt that little tingle I looked up sure

862
00:34:59,450 --> 00:34:55,679
enough there's that house where that

863
00:35:01,550 --> 00:34:59,460
happened at my grandmother's you know a

864
00:35:03,290 --> 00:35:01,560
little while later Mom Dad are carrying

865
00:35:06,290 --> 00:35:03,300
stuff in she whisked me off to the

866
00:35:08,030 --> 00:35:06,300
sewing room she's told me uh something

867
00:35:11,390 --> 00:35:08,040
or other about the feelings feeling

868
00:35:12,650 --> 00:35:11,400
things and um and I'm like well yeah

869
00:35:14,210 --> 00:35:12,660
that was about eight years old I said

870
00:35:16,250 --> 00:35:14,220
well yeah I got feelings I get my

871
00:35:18,890 --> 00:35:16,260
feelings hurt and stuff she said no I

872
00:35:21,349 --> 00:35:18,900
don't mean like that she said I mean you

873
00:35:23,150 --> 00:35:21,359
feel things like that spot on the

874
00:35:25,250 --> 00:35:23,160
highway on the way here tonight

875
00:35:27,130 --> 00:35:25,260
and my jaw just dropped open it's like

876
00:35:29,630 --> 00:35:27,140
she's in my head she can read my mind

877
00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:29,640
scared the the pee water out of me you

878
00:35:34,310 --> 00:35:32,400
know I decided didn't like granny being

879
00:35:36,230 --> 00:35:34,320
able to know my thoughts but she knew

880
00:35:39,890 --> 00:35:36,240
about that and I had other people

881
00:35:41,690 --> 00:35:39,900
tell me stories like that uh uh ladies

882
00:35:44,270 --> 00:35:41,700
I'd met much later in life after my

883
00:35:46,370 --> 00:35:44,280
grandma was passed uh told me that when

884
00:35:49,490 --> 00:35:46,380
she was a teenager her and some other

885
00:35:51,170 --> 00:35:49,500
girls around the same age 14 15 went to

886
00:35:53,210 --> 00:35:51,180
see my grandmother to get their fortunes

887
00:35:56,329 --> 00:35:53,220
told had to walk several miles out to

888
00:35:57,890 --> 00:35:56,339
where she lived and uh the two of them

889
00:35:59,270 --> 00:35:57,900
were really into it they wanted to find

890
00:36:01,730 --> 00:35:59,280
out if they were going to marry well and

891
00:36:03,290 --> 00:36:01,740
stuff and this particular lady said ah

892
00:36:04,849 --> 00:36:03,300
I'll go along with you and hear what

893
00:36:07,310 --> 00:36:04,859
she's got to say but I I don't believe

894
00:36:08,990 --> 00:36:07,320
in all that crap well they get there

895
00:36:11,089 --> 00:36:09,000
they come into my granny's reading room

896
00:36:13,730 --> 00:36:11,099
and she kind of looks at him and she

897
00:36:16,310 --> 00:36:13,740
says I'll read for you and I'll read for

898
00:36:18,829 --> 00:36:16,320
you but you I won't read for because you

899
00:36:21,170 --> 00:36:18,839
don't believe in me and the lady's name

900
00:36:23,030 --> 00:36:21,180
was Anna she said you could have knocked

901
00:36:25,970 --> 00:36:23,040
me over with a feathers she said there

902
00:36:27,829 --> 00:36:25,980
was no way she said we were walking you

903
00:36:31,010 --> 00:36:27,839
know down the old dirt road country road

904
00:36:33,829 --> 00:36:31,020
miles away from where she lived when I

905
00:36:36,650 --> 00:36:33,839
uttered those words but she knew what I

906
00:36:38,870 --> 00:36:36,660
had said and there you go so that that

907
00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:38,880
was my granny who couldn't put nothing

908
00:36:42,829 --> 00:36:40,560
past her of course having nine voice

909
00:36:44,569 --> 00:36:42,839
same with my mother she had nine

910
00:36:46,750 --> 00:36:44,579
brothers so she knew all the boy tricks

911
00:36:49,550 --> 00:36:46,760
I didn't get away with much

912
00:36:53,089 --> 00:36:49,560
yeah I was spoiled too I mean My

913
00:36:55,130 --> 00:36:53,099
Grandmother Had Me me a grandson and

914
00:36:57,829 --> 00:36:55,140
four granddaughters and

915
00:37:00,349 --> 00:36:57,839
yeah I'll admit I was spoiled rotten but

916
00:37:02,630 --> 00:37:00,359
you know I got more attention than

917
00:37:05,390 --> 00:37:02,640
uh I was better for it I think so

918
00:37:08,089 --> 00:37:05,400
absolutely I was a late Life Unexpected

919
00:37:11,450 --> 00:37:08,099
baby my only sibling older brother he

920
00:37:13,250 --> 00:37:11,460
was 17 years older than I am uh and by

921
00:37:15,710 --> 00:37:13,260
the time I was cognizant or anything

922
00:37:17,690 --> 00:37:15,720
he'd already married and moved out uh my

923
00:37:19,970 --> 00:37:17,700
nephew who's four years younger than me

924
00:37:21,950 --> 00:37:19,980
he was like my little brother my little

925
00:37:24,589 --> 00:37:21,960
my actual brother seemed like an uncle

926
00:37:27,170 --> 00:37:24,599
or something we weren't closer to much

927
00:37:29,030 --> 00:37:27,180
much later in life but uh my dad used to

928
00:37:30,349 --> 00:37:29,040
kid me because you know they knew my

929
00:37:32,210 --> 00:37:30,359
brother was getting married moving out

930
00:37:34,750 --> 00:37:32,220
and he said you know you were supposed

931
00:37:37,370 --> 00:37:34,760
to be a 63 Corvette

932
00:37:39,349 --> 00:37:37,380
that they'd had plans and after my

933
00:37:41,690 --> 00:37:39,359
brother moved on and they were empty

934
00:37:45,230 --> 00:37:41,700
nesters they were going to buy a 63

935
00:37:47,510 --> 00:37:45,240
Corvette uh Route 66 was a popular TV

936
00:37:49,190 --> 00:37:47,520
show back then they wanted to travel the

937
00:37:52,490 --> 00:37:49,200
highway it's like Todd and Buzz well

938
00:37:54,109 --> 00:37:52,500
surprise and he I think he was only half

939
00:37:56,569 --> 00:37:54,119
kid and when he said that but if I've

940
00:37:58,430 --> 00:37:56,579
done something in particular that he

941
00:38:01,430 --> 00:37:58,440
didn't like he'd laugh he'd bring it up

942
00:38:04,550 --> 00:38:01,440
he was supposed to be a Corvette

943
00:38:07,069 --> 00:38:04,560
but I was I was raised as an only and

944
00:38:08,930 --> 00:38:07,079
therefore was was totally indulged I was

945
00:38:12,589 --> 00:38:08,940
spoiled my brother used to resent that I

946
00:38:14,630 --> 00:38:12,599
think because he was born in 46. so he

947
00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:14,640
came up kind of rough just after the war

948
00:38:19,790 --> 00:38:17,280
my parents uh worked together out at Oak

949
00:38:22,490 --> 00:38:19,800
Ridge Tennessee met on the Manhattan

950
00:38:25,490 --> 00:38:22,500
Project my dad worked at a Oak Ridge

951
00:38:27,950 --> 00:38:25,500
National Laboratory later on as a

952
00:38:30,530 --> 00:38:27,960
scientist and that was a weird mix too

953
00:38:32,569 --> 00:38:30,540
where we lived out in the country uh

954
00:38:35,150 --> 00:38:32,579
lived in Knox County Oak Ridge was just

955
00:38:37,609 --> 00:38:35,160
across uh Melton Hill Lake used to be

956
00:38:40,790 --> 00:38:37,619
the the Clinch River until TVA damned it

957
00:38:43,069 --> 00:38:40,800
up but uh at one time Oak Ridge

958
00:38:45,410 --> 00:38:43,079
Tennessee had more phds per capita than

959
00:38:46,970 --> 00:38:45,420
anywhere in the world and then like

960
00:38:48,829 --> 00:38:46,980
where I went to elementary schools a

961
00:38:52,010 --> 00:38:48,839
small country school where my mom had

962
00:38:55,490 --> 00:38:52,020
gone to uh 200 kids total first through

963
00:38:58,250 --> 00:38:55,500
the eighth grade you had children of uh

964
00:39:00,770 --> 00:38:58,260
physicists and Rocket heads and then you

965
00:39:04,010 --> 00:39:00,780
had kids at their dads farmed tobacco

966
00:39:07,370 --> 00:39:04,020
you know so it was just a strange odd

967
00:39:09,710 --> 00:39:07,380
mix but just the stories that that you

968
00:39:12,410 --> 00:39:09,720
would hear everybody had a story that

969
00:39:15,290 --> 00:39:12,420
school was supposedly haunted I've got a

970
00:39:17,109 --> 00:39:15,300
story about that in my book about the uh

971
00:39:19,970 --> 00:39:17,119
my uh

972
00:39:21,650 --> 00:39:19,980
not entirely legal incursion in there

973
00:39:23,810 --> 00:39:21,660
one night while it was still school I

974
00:39:25,790 --> 00:39:23,820
didn't go there anymore but uh

975
00:39:27,109 --> 00:39:25,800
something chased me and a friend out of

976
00:39:28,250 --> 00:39:27,119
there

977
00:39:30,589 --> 00:39:28,260
um

978
00:39:34,190 --> 00:39:30,599
uh yeah I want to thank the folks who

979
00:39:37,430 --> 00:39:34,200
have uh given donations and and uh

980
00:39:40,370 --> 00:39:37,440
super chats tonight so far appreciate it

981
00:39:43,970 --> 00:39:40,380
very much appreciated uh man let's get

982
00:39:49,250 --> 00:39:47,270
uh do you believe Steve in the Bigfoot

983
00:39:52,730 --> 00:39:49,260
UFO connection

984
00:39:56,089 --> 00:39:52,740
I I do to an extent just in for the fact

985
00:39:58,670 --> 00:39:56,099
that a lot of times in areas where there

986
00:40:01,130 --> 00:39:58,680
are a lot of Bigfoot encounters that

987
00:40:03,050 --> 00:40:01,140
there's a lot of UFO activity as well

988
00:40:06,470 --> 00:40:03,060
and there have been times when people

989
00:40:09,710 --> 00:40:06,480
have seen Bigfoot either shortly before

990
00:40:12,410 --> 00:40:09,720
or shortly after seeing a UFO so I think

991
00:40:13,970 --> 00:40:12,420
there is maybe some correlation there

992
00:40:17,270 --> 00:40:13,980
that's one of those things that's hard

993
00:40:18,950 --> 00:40:17,280
to say but I think everything paranormal

994
00:40:21,950 --> 00:40:18,960
strange Supernatural I think it's all

995
00:40:23,810 --> 00:40:21,960
connected to some degree or another yeah

996
00:40:25,910 --> 00:40:23,820
I tend to agree with that you know

997
00:40:27,530 --> 00:40:25,920
different aspects of the Paranormal

998
00:40:31,010 --> 00:40:27,540
there's a fine line between all of them

999
00:40:34,010 --> 00:40:31,020
I believe and uh you know the more and

1000
00:40:35,390 --> 00:40:34,020
more you do this and you know you go

1001
00:40:37,970 --> 00:40:35,400
into a case thinking you're going to

1002
00:40:40,370 --> 00:40:37,980
have one one thing and you're going to

1003
00:40:42,250 --> 00:40:40,380
get a whole slew of things as as you go

1004
00:40:44,930 --> 00:40:42,260
deeper and deeper into it

1005
00:40:47,089 --> 00:40:44,940
so yeah that's that's just the nature of

1006
00:40:49,010 --> 00:40:47,099
the Beast I suppose and uh one of the

1007
00:40:51,710 --> 00:40:49,020
ways that that's fascinated me in the

1008
00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:51,720
last few years is the faith Theory I'd

1009
00:40:54,890 --> 00:40:53,520
never put a lot of credence in that or a

1010
00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:54,900
lot of thought into it until I started

1011
00:40:59,930 --> 00:40:57,119
looking into it and reading some of

1012
00:41:02,030 --> 00:40:59,940
those texts from uh 1800s in the Celtic

1013
00:41:04,069 --> 00:41:02,040
countries where the the belief in the

1014
00:41:06,890 --> 00:41:04,079
faith was almost a religion and probably

1015
00:41:09,290 --> 00:41:06,900
still is in parts of Ireland and places

1016
00:41:12,589 --> 00:41:09,300
like that but uh some of those old

1017
00:41:15,530 --> 00:41:12,599
stories uh the the FAE is kind of the

1018
00:41:17,390 --> 00:41:15,540
umbrella which everything can fit uh

1019
00:41:19,970 --> 00:41:17,400
there was one account I was reading from

1020
00:41:22,849 --> 00:41:19,980
uh I think it's mid-1800s where they

1021
00:41:24,530 --> 00:41:22,859
talked about a Horseless buggy came down

1022
00:41:27,290 --> 00:41:24,540
out of the sky with some little men in

1023
00:41:29,510 --> 00:41:27,300
it well that's a UFO story they talk

1024
00:41:31,609 --> 00:41:29,520
about some of the Fate they're not all

1025
00:41:32,950 --> 00:41:31,619
this tinker Bell Disney fight things

1026
00:41:35,089 --> 00:41:32,960
that we've been

1027
00:41:36,410 --> 00:41:35,099
convinced that they are there there's

1028
00:41:39,069 --> 00:41:36,420
some of them that are big and scary

1029
00:41:42,890 --> 00:41:39,079
they're almost like Elementals and stuff

1030
00:41:45,290 --> 00:41:42,900
and I I think that's the only theory

1031
00:41:47,150 --> 00:41:45,300
that I've heard that kind of neatly puts

1032
00:41:49,370 --> 00:41:47,160
everything together in a box and ties it

1033
00:41:52,490 --> 00:41:49,380
up with a bow but is is there something

1034
00:41:54,530 --> 00:41:52,500
beyond the FAE and a lot of those uh

1035
00:41:56,990 --> 00:41:54,540
Indian stories and legends and things

1036
00:41:59,630 --> 00:41:57,000
that ties into the Fey too some of the

1037
00:42:01,310 --> 00:41:59,640
same types of encounters that the

1038
00:42:03,589 --> 00:42:01,320
natives here have I think again it

1039
00:42:05,089 --> 00:42:03,599
there's there's this connection there's

1040
00:42:07,250 --> 00:42:05,099
String Theory or whatever you want to

1041
00:42:09,410 --> 00:42:07,260
call it uh there there's a thread that

1042
00:42:11,150 --> 00:42:09,420
runs through the Paranormal

1043
00:42:13,370 --> 00:42:11,160
yeah and we've got more and more

1044
00:42:15,890 --> 00:42:13,380
researchers and investigators involved

1045
00:42:17,870 --> 00:42:15,900
with Faye research and uh and that it's

1046
00:42:20,089 --> 00:42:17,880
becoming more prominent now

1047
00:42:22,670 --> 00:42:20,099
which uh is good because it's something

1048
00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:22,680
that really wasn't covered yeah and I'm

1049
00:42:27,950 --> 00:42:25,200
glad to see it just a few years ago uh

1050
00:42:29,810 --> 00:42:27,960
Arden Bigfoot Believers hardcore UFO

1051
00:42:31,730 --> 00:42:29,820
enthusiasts even abductees and

1052
00:42:33,950 --> 00:42:31,740
experiencers they've kind of Snicker at

1053
00:42:35,270 --> 00:42:33,960
you if you mentioned the fight but now

1054
00:42:37,490 --> 00:42:35,280
they're kind of saying hmm you know

1055
00:42:41,210 --> 00:42:37,500
maybe there is something to this

1056
00:42:43,790 --> 00:42:41,220
so yeah yeah I mean uh Vince has put up

1057
00:42:45,530 --> 00:42:43,800
Joshua kutchen's book and he he and

1058
00:42:48,530 --> 00:42:45,540
Timothy Renner have been writing about

1059
00:42:50,410 --> 00:42:48,540
that for the last couple years and such

1060
00:42:53,810 --> 00:42:50,420
and it's been some really interesting

1061
00:42:55,550 --> 00:42:53,820
research and and cases that they've come

1062
00:42:58,069 --> 00:42:55,560
up with and I'm glad it is happening

1063
00:43:00,410 --> 00:42:58,079
because it you know it's opening up

1064
00:43:02,390 --> 00:43:00,420
everybody's mind and yeah you're right I

1065
00:43:04,370 --> 00:43:02,400
think there is a a definite connection

1066
00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:04,380
between a lot of what we people

1067
00:43:09,589 --> 00:43:06,560
experienced a lot of what we investigate

1068
00:43:11,630 --> 00:43:09,599
uh that is related like that definitely

1069
00:43:13,609 --> 00:43:11,640
and that's you know Charles Fort said

1070
00:43:16,130 --> 00:43:13,619
one measures a circle beginning anywhere

1071
00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:16,140
well that that Circle can include a lot

1072
00:43:20,270 --> 00:43:18,240
of different things within it and some

1073
00:43:22,250 --> 00:43:20,280
stuff just outside the circle the the

1074
00:43:24,349 --> 00:43:22,260
overlapping circles you know that sort

1075
00:43:25,790 --> 00:43:24,359
of thing there's part of this part of

1076
00:43:28,250 --> 00:43:25,800
that and it's the same with those

1077
00:43:30,230 --> 00:43:28,260
missing person cases people ask me what

1078
00:43:32,569 --> 00:43:30,240
do you think it is Steve I think it's

1079
00:43:34,069 --> 00:43:32,579
it's a whole bunch of different things I

1080
00:43:36,349 --> 00:43:34,079
think there's human predation there's

1081
00:43:38,450 --> 00:43:36,359
serial killers out there there's simple

1082
00:43:40,150 --> 00:43:38,460
death by misadvantage you're being ill

1083
00:43:43,190 --> 00:43:40,160
prepared or ill-equipped or

1084
00:43:46,069 --> 00:43:43,200
overestimating your abilities but then

1085
00:43:49,010 --> 00:43:46,079
there's cases where something took those

1086
00:43:54,230 --> 00:43:49,020
people whether it be a UFO some sort of

1087
00:43:57,290 --> 00:43:54,240
government entity or um program or you

1088
00:44:00,050 --> 00:43:57,300
know another encrypted or based or

1089
00:44:01,849 --> 00:44:00,060
I don't know they're just the the only

1090
00:44:04,609 --> 00:44:01,859
answer is there is no answer at this

1091
00:44:06,890 --> 00:44:04,619
point and you're right you're right and

1092
00:44:08,089 --> 00:44:06,900
you know that's that's what I found and

1093
00:44:11,809 --> 00:44:08,099
you you mentioned that in your intro

1094
00:44:13,609 --> 00:44:11,819
there that I'm no longer looking for for

1095
00:44:16,730 --> 00:44:13,619
answers I'm looking for the next set of

1096
00:44:19,910 --> 00:44:16,740
questions uh Sarai ascath over on where

1097
00:44:21,349 --> 00:44:19,920
the road go he compared it to uh the

1098
00:44:23,750 --> 00:44:21,359
Paranormal is like trying to put

1099
00:44:25,849 --> 00:44:23,760
together a jigsaw puzzle but you don't

1100
00:44:28,010 --> 00:44:25,859
have the picture on the box to even see

1101
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:28,020
what picture you're supposed to come up

1102
00:44:32,150 --> 00:44:30,480
with and then you find out some Joker is

1103
00:44:35,510 --> 00:44:32,160
maybe mixed in five or six different

1104
00:44:37,970 --> 00:44:35,520
puzzles and uh there you go have fun and

1105
00:44:39,349 --> 00:44:37,980
I like that analogy that is a good

1106
00:44:42,829 --> 00:44:39,359
analogy

1107
00:44:45,230 --> 00:44:42,839
uh let's see Vincent wants to know

1108
00:44:47,390 --> 00:44:45,240
do you use crystals or other things like

1109
00:44:49,670 --> 00:44:47,400
Sage to clear your area and I guess he

1110
00:44:52,670 --> 00:44:49,680
includes other divination and stuff yeah

1111
00:44:54,890 --> 00:44:52,680
I'd already mentioned Sage I used that I

1112
00:44:56,450 --> 00:44:54,900
smudge often I do have crystals I

1113
00:44:58,910 --> 00:44:56,460
believe in the power of rocks and

1114
00:45:02,089 --> 00:44:58,920
gemstones some people trying to poo poo

1115
00:45:04,069 --> 00:45:02,099
that but to look at a there's a watches

1116
00:45:06,170 --> 00:45:04,079
that have a quartz moving in them when I

1117
00:45:09,890 --> 00:45:06,180
was in the scouts we made what they call

1118
00:45:12,170 --> 00:45:09,900
a foxhole radio with a quartz crystal a

1119
00:45:14,990 --> 00:45:12,180
nail a piece of copper wire a razor

1120
00:45:16,370 --> 00:45:15,000
blade and a thumbtack I think and if you

1121
00:45:18,170 --> 00:45:16,380
hooked it up just right you could

1122
00:45:20,990 --> 00:45:18,180
actually pick up radio signals

1123
00:45:23,150 --> 00:45:21,000
absolutely there's power and not only

1124
00:45:26,210 --> 00:45:23,160
crystals but lots of different kinds of

1125
00:45:28,190 --> 00:45:26,220
rocks and things and uh I believe like

1126
00:45:30,410 --> 00:45:28,200
the stone tape Theory and things like

1127
00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:30,420
that you think about that and an audio

1128
00:45:34,809 --> 00:45:32,880
tape or videotape that's just a piece of

1129
00:45:37,670 --> 00:45:34,819
mylar plastic with ferrous oxide

1130
00:45:39,410 --> 00:45:37,680
particles on there when it runs across

1131
00:45:41,990 --> 00:45:39,420
the playheads it does whatever it does

1132
00:45:44,089 --> 00:45:42,000
to those heads or the recording hand the

1133
00:45:46,130 --> 00:45:44,099
playhead plays it back fact I think

1134
00:45:48,589 --> 00:45:46,140
there are residual hauntings and things

1135
00:45:50,210 --> 00:45:48,599
that that's what that is there's uh one

1136
00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:50,220
of the oldest hauntings I've ever heard

1137
00:45:54,349 --> 00:45:52,560
of was a man in England that would see

1138
00:45:57,650 --> 00:45:54,359
Roman soldiers marching through his

1139
00:45:59,270 --> 00:45:57,660
basement and uh I forget what type of

1140
00:46:01,790 --> 00:45:59,280
stone the walls were they're probably

1141
00:46:05,329 --> 00:46:01,800
Granite but something was that had a

1142
00:46:07,490 --> 00:46:05,339
high quartz content in it and uh and he

1143
00:46:10,130 --> 00:46:07,500
did some research and sure enough the

1144
00:46:13,670 --> 00:46:10,140
level that his house was on that was the

1145
00:46:15,170 --> 00:46:13,680
old road through the area when uh those

1146
00:46:16,910 --> 00:46:15,180
Roman soldiers would have marched

1147
00:46:19,089 --> 00:46:16,920
through there and he said it was always

1148
00:46:21,230 --> 00:46:19,099
the same he would see the same

1149
00:46:23,630 --> 00:46:21,240
apparitions doing the same thing and you

1150
00:46:25,609 --> 00:46:23,640
have that at Gettysburg and places like

1151
00:46:27,890 --> 00:46:25,619
that where it's like a loop just a

1152
00:46:29,150 --> 00:46:27,900
continuous loop and you know there's a

1153
00:46:31,370 --> 00:46:29,160
difference between those residual

1154
00:46:33,890 --> 00:46:31,380
hauntings like that and intelligent

1155
00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:33,900
active awnings or Poltergeist or or

1156
00:46:37,849 --> 00:46:35,760
whatever you want to call it so I think

1157
00:46:39,430 --> 00:46:37,859
there's a lot that science just hadn't

1158
00:46:41,809 --> 00:46:39,440
figured out or that we don't understand

1159
00:46:44,750 --> 00:46:41,819
uh things were not meant to understand

1160
00:46:47,390 --> 00:46:44,760
just yet I mean if if you look how much

1161
00:46:48,290 --> 00:46:47,400
technology has grown just since we were

1162
00:46:52,190 --> 00:46:48,300
kids

1163
00:46:55,250 --> 00:46:52,200
wow what what will the next 20 40 60

1164
00:46:58,250 --> 00:46:55,260
years hold I I probably won't be around

1165
00:47:00,650 --> 00:46:58,260
to see it but I'm sure it'll be amazing

1166
00:47:02,329 --> 00:47:00,660
yeah and if you're ever in the area I

1167
00:47:05,450 --> 00:47:02,339
mean I live just down the street from

1168
00:47:07,730 --> 00:47:05,460
Gettysburg uh make sure you let me know

1169
00:47:10,089 --> 00:47:07,740
because I you know oh I'd love to meet

1170
00:47:13,069 --> 00:47:10,099
up with you I kind of have plans to go

1171
00:47:15,230 --> 00:47:13,079
uh the the next bash I know Cisco

1172
00:47:18,410 --> 00:47:15,240
Murdock is big on that she's invited me

1173
00:47:20,329 --> 00:47:18,420
a couple times uh my girlfriend lives in

1174
00:47:22,670 --> 00:47:20,339
Indiana she wants to go so I'm thinking

1175
00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:22,680
it's not it's still a good drive but I

1176
00:47:26,089 --> 00:47:24,480
can fly into Indy pick her up in a real

1177
00:47:28,670 --> 00:47:26,099
car and we'll we'll take off to

1178
00:47:31,309 --> 00:47:28,680
Gettysburg for the The Bash or whatever

1179
00:47:33,710 --> 00:47:31,319
they call it I'm I'm unfamiliar but uh

1180
00:47:36,290 --> 00:47:33,720
Cisco Murdock is turning through the

1181
00:47:39,050 --> 00:47:36,300
gate paranormal portal podcast her and

1182
00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:39,060
her crew uh they rent a bed and

1183
00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:40,800
breakfast a haunted bed and breakfast is

1184
00:47:46,190 --> 00:47:43,920
just right near where everything takes

1185
00:47:48,770 --> 00:47:46,200
place and that's probably is it the

1186
00:47:50,690 --> 00:47:48,780
Farnsworth Inn that sounds familiar I

1187
00:47:52,490 --> 00:47:50,700
can't say for sure but it's it's

1188
00:47:53,870 --> 00:47:52,500
something like that and it's just right

1189
00:47:56,089 --> 00:47:53,880
there

1190
00:48:00,230 --> 00:47:56,099
yeah that place is haunted I'll agree I

1191
00:48:01,970 --> 00:48:00,240
I I will attest to that uh I have seen a

1192
00:48:04,250 --> 00:48:01,980
few things in that place and felt a few

1193
00:48:06,109 --> 00:48:04,260
things so absolutely and in fact that

1194
00:48:07,790 --> 00:48:06,119
was there when most haunted was there

1195
00:48:11,089 --> 00:48:07,800
when they were here in the United States

1196
00:48:13,550 --> 00:48:11,099
about a decade ago I was there with them

1197
00:48:15,050 --> 00:48:13,560
and uh God that was that was that was

1198
00:48:16,430 --> 00:48:15,060
one of the strangest things I've ever

1199
00:48:18,470 --> 00:48:16,440
been with because we all walked in the

1200
00:48:21,710 --> 00:48:18,480
attic and all and I was helping with

1201
00:48:24,109 --> 00:48:21,720
helping the crew that was that was an

1202
00:48:26,089 --> 00:48:24,119
interesting night but no absolutely that

1203
00:48:28,370 --> 00:48:26,099
place is definitely haunted

1204
00:48:29,990 --> 00:48:28,380
yeah that to me that that's a fun time

1205
00:48:32,690 --> 00:48:30,000
that's that's a great date right there

1206
00:48:34,430 --> 00:48:32,700
to go stay in a haunted BNB and then

1207
00:48:37,250 --> 00:48:34,440
tour a haunted Battlefield I'm all about

1208
00:48:38,750 --> 00:48:37,260
it there you go I've often wondered

1209
00:48:41,510 --> 00:48:38,760
about that I'd like to get your opinion

1210
00:48:43,730 --> 00:48:41,520
on this what is it in particular about

1211
00:48:46,430 --> 00:48:43,740
the Civil War battlefields now I've been

1212
00:48:48,650 --> 00:48:46,440
all over the world I've uh I spent a

1213
00:48:51,349 --> 00:48:48,660
year in Southeast Asia I've seen The

1214
00:48:54,410 --> 00:48:51,359
Killing Fields there in Cambodia I've

1215
00:48:57,710 --> 00:48:54,420
been to Vietnam I've been to uh some of

1216
00:48:59,450 --> 00:48:57,720
those areas in France uh where World War

1217
00:49:02,089 --> 00:48:59,460
One you know the trench warfare and all

1218
00:49:05,089 --> 00:49:02,099
that happened and it it has a certain

1219
00:49:07,490 --> 00:49:05,099
feeling to it but I've been to a lot of

1220
00:49:09,829 --> 00:49:07,500
battlefields Civil War battlefields here

1221
00:49:12,890 --> 00:49:09,839
in the states there's just there is a

1222
00:49:15,349 --> 00:49:12,900
difference I don't know what it is uh

1223
00:49:17,470 --> 00:49:15,359
Chickamauga in Georgia Fort Oglethorpe

1224
00:49:20,809 --> 00:49:17,480
down there they've had all kinds of

1225
00:49:22,069 --> 00:49:20,819
Terror stuff there old green eyes but

1226
00:49:24,470 --> 00:49:22,079
there were people that claimed to have

1227
00:49:26,890 --> 00:49:24,480
seen that floating around during the

1228
00:49:29,390 --> 00:49:26,900
battle amongst the dead and dying yeah

1229
00:49:31,790 --> 00:49:29,400
Snodgrass Hill that that Tower there

1230
00:49:35,089 --> 00:49:31,800
that whole place just gives me the

1231
00:49:37,730 --> 00:49:35,099
creeps but I I think it has to do with

1232
00:49:39,890 --> 00:49:37,740
the times itself I think and you're

1233
00:49:42,710 --> 00:49:39,900
right I mean I've been to several field

1234
00:49:44,630 --> 00:49:42,720
battlefields and there's a specific type

1235
00:49:45,770 --> 00:49:44,640
of energy there

1236
00:49:48,349 --> 00:49:45,780
um

1237
00:49:52,030 --> 00:49:48,359
and you know it's a lot of it's residual

1238
00:49:55,010 --> 00:49:52,040
but there are some very active activity

1239
00:49:57,710 --> 00:49:55,020
and I think it has to do with the time I

1240
00:49:58,550 --> 00:49:57,720
think you know these people for the most

1241
00:50:00,470 --> 00:49:58,560
part

1242
00:50:02,450 --> 00:50:00,480
they were it was a civil war they were

1243
00:50:04,010 --> 00:50:02,460
brothers they were you know these were

1244
00:50:06,770 --> 00:50:04,020
people whose families fought the

1245
00:50:10,430 --> 00:50:06,780
Revolutionary War the Mexican war

1246
00:50:12,530 --> 00:50:10,440
together yeah and uh you know I I think

1247
00:50:15,230 --> 00:50:12,540
because of their

1248
00:50:19,130 --> 00:50:15,240
what they believed in and I think they

1249
00:50:20,510 --> 00:50:19,140
just fought really much harder I I think

1250
00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:20,520
they were more committed to the battle

1251
00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:23,280
and I think a lot of that has what you

1252
00:50:28,069 --> 00:50:25,200
know left the imprint on the field

1253
00:50:31,130 --> 00:50:28,079
itself yeah and and I agree with you

1254
00:50:33,650 --> 00:50:31,140
there because it was the first time that

1255
00:50:35,750 --> 00:50:33,660
Americans had killed other Americans on

1256
00:50:38,750 --> 00:50:35,760
American soil and it was literally

1257
00:50:41,089 --> 00:50:38,760
brother against brother in some cases uh

1258
00:50:43,550 --> 00:50:41,099
I had family on both sides during the

1259
00:50:47,089 --> 00:50:43,560
war not depending yeah me too uh who you

1260
00:50:49,849 --> 00:50:47,099
talked to and and how it was but um

1261
00:50:52,549 --> 00:50:49,859
there's a story I've got over on 13 past

1262
00:50:54,230 --> 00:50:52,559
midnight about a place up in the Johnson

1263
00:50:54,890 --> 00:50:54,240
County

1264
00:50:58,010 --> 00:50:54,900
um

1265
00:50:59,750 --> 00:50:58,020
near Mountain City we talked about Roan

1266
00:51:02,390 --> 00:50:59,760
Mountain it's near there a place called

1267
00:51:04,849 --> 00:51:02,400
The jingling hole and it was square that

1268
00:51:07,549 --> 00:51:04,859
uh one side or the other once they

1269
00:51:10,430 --> 00:51:07,559
captured prisoners of War they had a an

1270
00:51:12,410 --> 00:51:10,440
iron bar laid across a some sort of an

1271
00:51:13,190 --> 00:51:12,420
open cave or open pit or Shaft or

1272
00:51:15,530 --> 00:51:13,200
something

1273
00:51:16,790 --> 00:51:15,540
and uh they would that was their

1274
00:51:19,250 --> 00:51:16,800
punishment they would have to climb out

1275
00:51:21,170 --> 00:51:19,260
there and hang off that bar and then

1276
00:51:23,450 --> 00:51:21,180
once they let go that was the end of

1277
00:51:25,549 --> 00:51:23,460
them and the ones that rode horses had

1278
00:51:27,829 --> 00:51:25,559
Spurs and you would hear the Spurs

1279
00:51:29,750 --> 00:51:27,839
jingling supposedly to this day if you

1280
00:51:31,730 --> 00:51:29,760
go there you can hear bones and cries

1281
00:51:33,829 --> 00:51:31,740
come down there and still hear the

1282
00:51:36,349 --> 00:51:33,839
jingling of Spurs but there's some

1283
00:51:39,170 --> 00:51:36,359
places up there where there's still a

1284
00:51:41,569 --> 00:51:39,180
lot of animosity still some family feuds

1285
00:51:44,870 --> 00:51:41,579
because of who picked what side on the

1286
00:51:47,030 --> 00:51:44,880
war exactly I mean people did Blood kin

1287
00:51:49,250 --> 00:51:47,040
that don't speak to one another haven't

1288
00:51:50,750 --> 00:51:49,260
spoken to one another since the Civil

1289
00:51:53,210 --> 00:51:50,760
War there's some of those Mountain feuds

1290
00:51:56,829 --> 00:51:53,220
you know the Hatfields and McCoys that's

1291
00:52:01,609 --> 00:51:59,690
areas like that yeah between the West

1292
00:52:03,470 --> 00:52:01,619
Virginia Kentucky side you had all I

1293
00:52:05,750 --> 00:52:03,480
mean there's yeah it was the same here

1294
00:52:08,089 --> 00:52:05,760
because you had you had families in

1295
00:52:09,710 --> 00:52:08,099
Maryland who you know the brothers one

1296
00:52:11,990 --> 00:52:09,720
would be on the union one would be on

1297
00:52:13,309 --> 00:52:12,000
the Confederate side and many of them

1298
00:52:17,329 --> 00:52:13,319
actually followed each other at

1299
00:52:19,609 --> 00:52:17,339
Gettysburg so uh yeah I mean and another

1300
00:52:22,010 --> 00:52:19,619
thing I don't think people were prepared

1301
00:52:23,870 --> 00:52:22,020
for how much of a loss of life there was

1302
00:52:25,730 --> 00:52:23,880
going to be in houses exactly the

1303
00:52:27,829 --> 00:52:25,740
fighting actually was I remember one

1304
00:52:29,569 --> 00:52:27,839
time my brother showed me a picture it

1305
00:52:32,089 --> 00:52:29,579
was just it was amazing it was some

1306
00:52:33,609 --> 00:52:32,099
people up on a kind of a bluff and they

1307
00:52:35,990 --> 00:52:33,619
were overlooking a battlefield

1308
00:52:38,329 --> 00:52:36,000
absolutely and the lines were drawn

1309
00:52:40,549 --> 00:52:38,339
there was a unit over here of one side

1310
00:52:42,710 --> 00:52:40,559
the unit over here the other and these

1311
00:52:44,450 --> 00:52:42,720
people in their Victorian finery are

1312
00:52:46,790 --> 00:52:44,460
having a picnic they've got a blanket

1313
00:52:48,829 --> 00:52:46,800
spread out there they've got baskets and

1314
00:52:51,710 --> 00:52:48,839
stuff and then in the next photograph

1315
00:52:54,049 --> 00:52:51,720
those people are gone the picnic baskets

1316
00:52:56,510 --> 00:52:54,059
turned over down below who they were

1317
00:52:59,329 --> 00:52:56,520
watching there's like bodies and and

1318
00:53:01,069 --> 00:52:59,339
dead and dying people down there and you

1319
00:53:02,690 --> 00:53:01,079
wonder what did they think was it going

1320
00:53:04,730 --> 00:53:02,700
to be like a football game or something

1321
00:53:07,069 --> 00:53:04,740
and there was going to be just a little

1322
00:53:08,390 --> 00:53:07,079
Skirmish but no these were people being

1323
00:53:10,250 --> 00:53:08,400
killed right in front of you and they

1324
00:53:11,930 --> 00:53:10,260
they hightailed it out of there but yeah

1325
00:53:16,190 --> 00:53:11,940
I mean you know you hear the stories

1326
00:53:17,569 --> 00:53:16,200
about you know after uh Fort Sumter you

1327
00:53:18,890 --> 00:53:17,579
know they thought well you know

1328
00:53:20,750 --> 00:53:18,900
especially in the union side they

1329
00:53:22,910 --> 00:53:20,760
thought this was going to be some some

1330
00:53:26,150 --> 00:53:22,920
walk over and of course when they

1331
00:53:28,430 --> 00:53:26,160
started mustering in in DC and went

1332
00:53:31,370 --> 00:53:28,440
across the Chain Bridge into uh Virginia

1333
00:53:34,490 --> 00:53:31,380
over at Manassas and over first Bull Run

1334
00:53:35,390 --> 00:53:34,500
well you had people from town from DC

1335
00:53:38,650 --> 00:53:35,400
area

1336
00:53:40,670 --> 00:53:38,660
with picnic passes can in courts and and

1337
00:53:42,950 --> 00:53:40,680
Buggies and stuff and they were going to

1338
00:53:44,870 --> 00:53:42,960
watch the battle well that didn't last

1339
00:53:46,430 --> 00:53:44,880
for so long because the Yankees got

1340
00:53:47,990 --> 00:53:46,440
their asses run out of there real quick

1341
00:53:51,730 --> 00:53:48,000
and they were rolling up on these people

1342
00:53:54,109 --> 00:53:51,740
in the buggies so uh that wasn't unusual

1343
00:53:56,450 --> 00:53:54,119
but I just again I don't know what

1344
00:53:58,010 --> 00:53:56,460
people expected but it was it was a

1345
00:54:00,049 --> 00:53:58,020
surprise and I think just you know just

1346
00:54:02,150 --> 00:54:00,059
the loss of life and not only from the

1347
00:54:05,630 --> 00:54:02,160
battle I think probably just about as

1348
00:54:08,390 --> 00:54:05,640
many people died from uh dysentery or

1349
00:54:10,549 --> 00:54:08,400
from being operated on oh yeah it was

1350
00:54:13,190 --> 00:54:10,559
terrible I went to a museum in Tennessee

1351
00:54:14,630 --> 00:54:13,200
one time that had some instruments the

1352
00:54:17,210 --> 00:54:14,640
surgical instruments that were used

1353
00:54:19,750 --> 00:54:17,220
during the Civil War it was brutal I

1354
00:54:22,010 --> 00:54:19,760
mean like hacksaws and bone saws and

1355
00:54:23,630 --> 00:54:22,020
they literally you know the biting the

1356
00:54:25,390 --> 00:54:23,640
bullet they would give you a bullet or

1357
00:54:27,170 --> 00:54:25,400
something to bite on there was no real

1358
00:54:29,510 --> 00:54:27,180
anesthetic I think they might have had

1359
00:54:32,210 --> 00:54:29,520
opium or something like that but yeah

1360
00:54:34,490 --> 00:54:32,220
they'd cut you off uh you know cut off a

1361
00:54:37,130 --> 00:54:34,500
limb cauterized as best they could dig a

1362
00:54:39,770 --> 00:54:37,140
bullet out of you if it was where my

1363
00:54:42,170 --> 00:54:39,780
dad's mother one of her brothers was a

1364
00:54:44,510 --> 00:54:42,180
Civil War veteran and he had one of

1365
00:54:47,089 --> 00:54:44,520
those lead mini balls embedded in the

1366
00:54:49,309 --> 00:54:47,099
back of his skull it is then carried it

1367
00:54:50,870 --> 00:54:49,319
just enough that it stayed there but not

1368
00:54:53,390 --> 00:54:50,880
enough as far as I know it was because

1369
00:54:55,130 --> 00:54:53,400
of many permanent damage but she said

1370
00:54:57,650 --> 00:54:55,140
she can remember giving him a hug and

1371
00:55:00,349 --> 00:54:57,660
and put her hand around the back of his

1372
00:55:02,510 --> 00:55:00,359
head and feeling that the the remains of

1373
00:55:05,089 --> 00:55:02,520
that mini ball in there if you've ever

1374
00:55:07,970 --> 00:55:05,099
seen those slugs there I found them for

1375
00:55:09,530 --> 00:55:07,980
it they're huge but to get smacked in

1376
00:55:12,410 --> 00:55:09,540
the head and walk away with it that's

1377
00:55:14,270 --> 00:55:12,420
that's something that's a he's got got a

1378
00:55:16,549 --> 00:55:14,280
thick skull and then Happy of it I guess

1379
00:55:18,349 --> 00:55:16,559
in that situation yeah I've heard all

1380
00:55:20,750 --> 00:55:18,359
kinds of stories there was one guy in

1381
00:55:22,670 --> 00:55:20,760
particular I I just heard the story the

1382
00:55:25,730 --> 00:55:22,680
other night he got shot right between

1383
00:55:28,670 --> 00:55:25,740
the eyes up and up in the uh up in his

1384
00:55:31,849 --> 00:55:28,680
forehead and he that hole stayed open

1385
00:55:34,190 --> 00:55:31,859
all his life and um you know they left

1386
00:55:37,190 --> 00:55:34,200
him for dead he shows up across the

1387
00:55:40,490 --> 00:55:37,200
lines back on the union side and uh he

1388
00:55:42,829 --> 00:55:40,500
was from Illinois actually and uh he

1389
00:55:46,190 --> 00:55:42,839
lived his entire life

1390
00:55:50,030 --> 00:55:46,200
up until the he was in his early 90s I

1391
00:55:52,970 --> 00:55:50,040
think and uh he three on three occasions

1392
00:55:54,589 --> 00:55:52,980
parts of that mini ball broke off and

1393
00:55:57,049 --> 00:55:54,599
popped out of the out of the room but

1394
00:55:59,210 --> 00:55:57,059
the wound stayed open but uh trepidation

1395
00:56:00,829 --> 00:55:59,220
by a musket you know the ancient

1396
00:56:02,809 --> 00:56:00,839
Egyptians used to do that they had

1397
00:56:05,390 --> 00:56:02,819
chisel a hole between the eye there

1398
00:56:08,390 --> 00:56:05,400
supposedly in the third eye and uh so

1399
00:56:10,549 --> 00:56:08,400
that guy had it done as a battle award

1400
00:56:13,010 --> 00:56:10,559
there's pictures of him with that Holy

1401
00:56:15,890 --> 00:56:13,020
forehead so yeah I I was kind of

1402
00:56:17,630 --> 00:56:15,900
surprised I've covered true crime cases

1403
00:56:19,970 --> 00:56:17,640
before where somebody got shot in the

1404
00:56:22,670 --> 00:56:19,980
head and the bullet would actually

1405
00:56:24,950 --> 00:56:22,680
travel around the curve of the skull and

1406
00:56:26,750 --> 00:56:24,960
and exit the skin on the other side I

1407
00:56:29,829 --> 00:56:26,760
mean you talk about lucky that's amazing

1408
00:56:32,230 --> 00:56:29,839
I'd go buy a lottery ticket if I got it

1409
00:56:36,549 --> 00:56:32,240
at the bullet

1410
00:56:42,170 --> 00:56:39,710
uh Amy wants to know Steve do you still

1411
00:56:44,569 --> 00:56:42,180
astral dream

1412
00:56:47,450 --> 00:56:44,579
I that's one of those things I think I

1413
00:56:50,030 --> 00:56:47,460
do I I believe in dream travel I believe

1414
00:56:53,210 --> 00:56:50,040
that happens and I've dreamed some

1415
00:56:55,549 --> 00:56:53,220
really really really weird dreams uh I'm

1416
00:56:57,230 --> 00:56:55,559
lifelong Insomniac I don't sleep much at

1417
00:56:59,870 --> 00:56:57,240
all maybe two or three hours a night if

1418
00:57:01,790 --> 00:56:59,880
I'm lucky and I don't go into the

1419
00:57:04,790 --> 00:57:01,800
different levels of sleep I go right

1420
00:57:06,650 --> 00:57:04,800
into REM sleep uh rapid eye movement I'm

1421
00:57:09,290 --> 00:57:06,660
Dreaming sometimes before my eyes are

1422
00:57:11,450 --> 00:57:09,300
closed I'm already seeing it in my head

1423
00:57:13,609 --> 00:57:11,460
or wherever it is that you dream but

1424
00:57:15,770 --> 00:57:13,619
there's some places I go to

1425
00:57:17,150 --> 00:57:15,780
that I've been several times that are

1426
00:57:19,549 --> 00:57:17,160
familiar to me

1427
00:57:21,109 --> 00:57:19,559
and I'm I'm somebody different but the

1428
00:57:23,030 --> 00:57:21,119
people there seem to know me they've

1429
00:57:25,549 --> 00:57:23,040
never called me by name but there's

1430
00:57:27,829 --> 00:57:25,559
places that I go to and then some of

1431
00:57:29,690 --> 00:57:27,839
it's modern some of it's older but

1432
00:57:32,150 --> 00:57:29,700
there's one particular place that I go

1433
00:57:33,829 --> 00:57:32,160
I'm going through a pass between some

1434
00:57:35,210 --> 00:57:33,839
mountains and there's a couple of

1435
00:57:37,309 --> 00:57:35,220
different convenience stores there

1436
00:57:38,990 --> 00:57:37,319
there's a little service station on the

1437
00:57:41,270 --> 00:57:39,000
right that I always stop at and get a

1438
00:57:43,370 --> 00:57:41,280
cup of coffee and if I go up a road just

1439
00:57:45,410 --> 00:57:43,380
behind there there's a house that I'm

1440
00:57:48,410 --> 00:57:45,420
familiar with up on the hill now it

1441
00:57:49,970 --> 00:57:48,420
looks like uh my cousin's house over in

1442
00:57:52,010 --> 00:57:49,980
Fentress County but it's not their house

1443
00:57:54,049 --> 00:57:52,020
but it reminds me of that house I've

1444
00:57:57,250 --> 00:57:54,059
been up that road a few times I don't

1445
00:58:02,569 --> 00:58:00,109
in some dreams when I was a kid I used

1446
00:58:05,329 --> 00:58:02,579
to dream about a house where I had to

1447
00:58:07,370 --> 00:58:05,339
walk down the long hallway to get to a

1448
00:58:09,470 --> 00:58:07,380
door at the other end and there was

1449
00:58:10,849 --> 00:58:09,480
about four or five doors on each side

1450
00:58:13,549 --> 00:58:10,859
some of them were open some of them were

1451
00:58:15,109 --> 00:58:13,559
closed and I knew that in some of those

1452
00:58:17,510 --> 00:58:15,119
rooms there was something that was going

1453
00:58:19,309 --> 00:58:17,520
to get me and I had to get from one end

1454
00:58:22,069 --> 00:58:19,319
to the other and something would always

1455
00:58:23,809 --> 00:58:22,079
chase me and I never made it out the

1456
00:58:25,670 --> 00:58:23,819
door the door would either be locked or

1457
00:58:27,829 --> 00:58:25,680
I'd wake up and I was talking to a

1458
00:58:29,750 --> 00:58:27,839
friend of mine Susan woodcarver she may

1459
00:58:32,569 --> 00:58:29,760
be in the chat here tonight she said

1460
00:58:35,089 --> 00:58:32,579
she'd had that same exact dream since

1461
00:58:37,309 --> 00:58:35,099
childhood so again maybe that's just

1462
00:58:39,890 --> 00:58:37,319
some kind of anxiety dream some kind of

1463
00:58:42,589 --> 00:58:39,900
mind game or something there but I've

1464
00:58:44,690 --> 00:58:42,599
I've and I've dreamed about places that

1465
00:58:47,089 --> 00:58:44,700
I've never been and then gone there and

1466
00:58:48,770 --> 00:58:47,099
it was just like I saw I remember one

1467
00:58:51,650 --> 00:58:48,780
time when I was a kid I dreamed about a

1468
00:58:53,450 --> 00:58:51,660
place in Ohio it was a farmhouse there

1469
00:58:55,069 --> 00:58:53,460
were some little outbuildings and three

1470
00:58:56,270 --> 00:58:55,079
of them and each one was in just a

1471
00:58:58,130 --> 00:58:56,280
little worse shape in the other weather

1472
00:59:01,250 --> 00:58:58,140
and out behind the house there was a

1473
00:59:03,710 --> 00:59:01,260
swing set well I'm probably a preteen

1474
00:59:05,750 --> 00:59:03,720
was driving through Ohio with my parents

1475
00:59:08,329 --> 00:59:05,760
my parents had an antique shop they're

1476
00:59:10,130 --> 00:59:08,339
antique dealers and some Summers instead

1477
00:59:12,349 --> 00:59:10,140
of going on vacation well they'd just

1478
00:59:14,329 --> 00:59:12,359
take a buying trip and hit these estate

1479
00:59:16,490 --> 00:59:14,339
sales and farm auctions and things like

1480
00:59:18,650 --> 00:59:16,500
that and all of a sudden I just this

1481
00:59:21,410 --> 00:59:18,660
place just seemed really familiar to me

1482
00:59:23,030 --> 00:59:21,420
and I'm talking about yeah just up the

1483
00:59:24,589 --> 00:59:23,040
road there's a lighthouse and there's

1484
00:59:27,109 --> 00:59:24,599
three buildings and there's a swing set

1485
00:59:28,849 --> 00:59:27,119
in the backyard and I'd never been there

1486
00:59:30,470 --> 00:59:28,859
before and my parents let me know that

1487
00:59:33,289 --> 00:59:30,480
real quick we've never been through this

1488
00:59:34,789 --> 00:59:33,299
area and not with you certainly and sure

1489
00:59:36,829 --> 00:59:34,799
enough we went around a curve on

1490
00:59:38,390 --> 00:59:36,839
whatever State Highway we're on there

1491
00:59:40,609 --> 00:59:38,400
was The Farmhouse there was those three

1492
00:59:42,109 --> 00:59:40,619
out buildings and once we got past the

1493
00:59:44,870 --> 00:59:42,119
house there was a swing set in the

1494
00:59:47,630 --> 00:59:44,880
backyard I dreamed about that years

1495
00:59:49,490 --> 00:59:47,640
prior now what does that even mean I've

1496
00:59:52,069 --> 00:59:49,500
had stuff like that where I dream about

1497
00:59:54,410 --> 00:59:52,079
something that is this cognition or

1498
00:59:57,049 --> 00:59:54,420
something like that yeah I used to ask

1499
00:59:59,210 --> 00:59:57,059
my Granny about that and she said well

1500
01:00:01,609 --> 00:59:59,220
there's some things that you're meant to

1501
01:00:04,190 --> 01:00:01,619
see and the reason may or may not be

1502
01:00:06,410 --> 01:00:04,200
obvious to you even in retrospect you

1503
01:00:09,109 --> 01:00:06,420
may never know but she said sometimes

1504
01:00:11,150 --> 01:00:09,119
things are meant for somebody else and

1505
01:00:13,010 --> 01:00:11,160
you just happen to see it it may not

1506
01:00:15,770 --> 01:00:13,020
mean a thing to you ever and wasn't

1507
01:00:18,109 --> 01:00:15,780
meant for you but because of what she

1508
01:00:20,809 --> 01:00:18,119
believed I had that I was capable of

1509
01:00:23,210 --> 01:00:20,819
seeing stuff that other people were

1510
01:00:25,010 --> 01:00:23,220
meant to say so you know take that with

1511
01:00:27,470 --> 01:00:25,020
a grain of salt but it kind of makes

1512
01:00:30,289 --> 01:00:27,480
sense because that would explain I've

1513
01:00:33,349 --> 01:00:30,299
had some some premonitions some flashes

1514
01:00:34,809 --> 01:00:33,359
of things some tragedies even but no way

1515
01:00:37,730 --> 01:00:34,819
to stop it

1516
01:00:40,549 --> 01:00:37,740
one time I had like a

1517
01:00:42,170 --> 01:00:40,559
I just fallen asleep and I had this

1518
01:00:43,789 --> 01:00:42,180
incredible dream I was on a construction

1519
01:00:46,430 --> 01:00:43,799
site somewhere I knew it was in the

1520
01:00:48,170 --> 01:00:46,440
South because the red clay mud was on a

1521
01:00:49,370 --> 01:00:48,180
job site there are people walking around

1522
01:00:51,770 --> 01:00:49,380
with their flannel shirts and their

1523
01:00:53,630 --> 01:00:51,780
boots and their hard hats and there was

1524
01:00:56,690 --> 01:00:53,640
a pyramid of uh

1525
01:00:59,569 --> 01:00:56,700
pipe there like the concrete pipe about

1526
01:01:01,609 --> 01:00:59,579
oh probably each pipe was three feet

1527
01:01:03,589 --> 01:01:01,619
tall they were five over six of them in

1528
01:01:06,230 --> 01:01:03,599
a pyramid and I thought man that's

1529
01:01:08,150 --> 01:01:06,240
unsecured that's dangerous and about the

1530
01:01:11,329 --> 01:01:08,160
time I thought that in the dream

1531
01:01:13,430 --> 01:01:11,339
the pyramid pipes collapsed and they

1532
01:01:16,069 --> 01:01:13,440
rolled over guy I mean I saw these pipes

1533
01:01:20,390 --> 01:01:16,079
go down a hill and mash a guy just into

1534
01:01:22,130 --> 01:01:20,400
Oblivion and I started up in bed and my

1535
01:01:24,470 --> 01:01:22,140
girlfriend at the time said are you okay

1536
01:01:26,450 --> 01:01:24,480
you look like you've seen a ghost and I

1537
01:01:28,670 --> 01:01:26,460
said I think I just saw somebody become

1538
01:01:30,230 --> 01:01:28,680
one but again I couldn't identify the

1539
01:01:31,970 --> 01:01:30,240
area I couldn't tell you when where

1540
01:01:34,250 --> 01:01:31,980
other than I believe it was in the South

1541
01:01:35,750 --> 01:01:34,260
because of that red clay sure enough a

1542
01:01:37,970 --> 01:01:35,760
few weeks a couple months later whatever

1543
01:01:40,910 --> 01:01:37,980
it was I heard of a news account it was

1544
01:01:43,250 --> 01:01:40,920
in Tennessee and uh not even a

1545
01:01:45,710 --> 01:01:43,260
neighboring City where that exact same

1546
01:01:47,390 --> 01:01:45,720
thing happened and unsecured stack of

1547
01:01:49,430 --> 01:01:47,400
pipes broke loose and crushed a man to

1548
01:01:51,530 --> 01:01:49,440
death why would I even see something

1549
01:01:54,170 --> 01:01:51,540
like that if I can't prevent it but

1550
01:01:56,150 --> 01:01:54,180
again goes back to my granny said even

1551
01:01:57,950 --> 01:01:56,160
if you know things there's some things

1552
01:02:00,589 --> 01:01:57,960
you can't change they're going to happen

1553
01:02:03,950 --> 01:02:00,599
no matter what you do or try to do it

1554
01:02:06,829 --> 01:02:03,960
just is that so I heard that was her one

1555
01:02:09,470 --> 01:02:06,839
of her catchphrases it just is I I think

1556
01:02:11,930 --> 01:02:09,480
she was right yeah I I've heard so many

1557
01:02:14,390 --> 01:02:11,940
different things like that and I think

1558
01:02:17,030 --> 01:02:14,400
they do occur

1559
01:02:19,549 --> 01:02:17,040
um Carol wants to know do Sprites talk

1560
01:02:21,289 --> 01:02:19,559
to you when you are sleeping I guess

1561
01:02:23,930 --> 01:02:21,299
that's kind of tied in not not that I'm

1562
01:02:25,849 --> 01:02:23,940
aware of the other strike I ever

1563
01:02:28,430 --> 01:02:25,859
encountered was in the woods as a child

1564
01:02:30,890 --> 01:02:28,440
and it chased me scared the Daylights

1565
01:02:33,530 --> 01:02:30,900
out of me I couldn't see it and I didn't

1566
01:02:35,750 --> 01:02:33,540
know what it was but uh I'll just I'll

1567
01:02:37,309 --> 01:02:35,760
go ahead and tell that story uh it's in

1568
01:02:39,410 --> 01:02:37,319
my book it's called the thing in the

1569
01:02:41,270 --> 01:02:39,420
ditch and we lived out in the country

1570
01:02:44,089 --> 01:02:41,280
when I was a kid I was eight years old

1571
01:02:46,309 --> 01:02:44,099
wandered around we had 26 Acres out

1572
01:02:48,589 --> 01:02:46,319
there had about five of it cleared off

1573
01:02:51,770 --> 01:02:48,599
the rest of it was old growth forest

1574
01:02:54,109 --> 01:02:51,780
and uh there was an old ditch line uh to

1575
01:02:55,370 --> 01:02:54,119
one side of the property and I didn't

1576
01:02:57,049 --> 01:02:55,380
know it at the time but that had

1577
01:02:59,109 --> 01:02:57,059
originally been the Old Stagecoach Road

1578
01:03:01,690 --> 01:02:59,119
through that area dating back to the

1579
01:03:05,569 --> 01:03:01,700
Revolutionary War and probably before

1580
01:03:07,069 --> 01:03:05,579
and uh I just I played in that ditch and

1581
01:03:09,710 --> 01:03:07,079
the other end of it but I was on the

1582
01:03:11,630 --> 01:03:09,720
upper end of it and my brother used to

1583
01:03:13,970 --> 01:03:11,640
keep hunting dogs and he'd had a dog

1584
01:03:16,010 --> 01:03:13,980
enclosure up there that hadn't been used

1585
01:03:18,530 --> 01:03:16,020
in years and it was kind of just rusting

1586
01:03:20,809 --> 01:03:18,540
into the ground and I walked up into

1587
01:03:23,089 --> 01:03:20,819
that ditch and it was probably 10 12

1588
01:03:25,370 --> 01:03:23,099
feet deep kind of looked down in there

1589
01:03:27,530 --> 01:03:25,380
didn't see anything to hold my interest

1590
01:03:29,569 --> 01:03:27,540
turned around started back down the hill

1591
01:03:31,970 --> 01:03:29,579
all of a sudden I heard something down

1592
01:03:33,589 --> 01:03:31,980
in the ditch in the leaves and I turned

1593
01:03:36,710 --> 01:03:33,599
around and looked and whatever it was

1594
01:03:38,390 --> 01:03:36,720
came up over the lip of the ditch and

1595
01:03:40,010 --> 01:03:38,400
was headed straight for me

1596
01:03:42,589 --> 01:03:40,020
but there was nothing there I couldn't

1597
01:03:44,750 --> 01:03:42,599
see it but I could see the effect it was

1598
01:03:46,250 --> 01:03:44,760
having the tree limbs were being brushed

1599
01:03:49,190 --> 01:03:46,260
out of the way it was kicking leaves up

1600
01:03:52,309 --> 01:03:49,200
when it's wake I could feel footfalls it

1601
01:03:54,349 --> 01:03:52,319
was big whatever it was I turned tail

1602
01:03:54,780 --> 01:03:54,359
ran down the hill screaming and cried I

1603
01:03:56,630 --> 01:03:54,790
was probably

1604
01:03:58,370 --> 01:03:56,640
[Music]

1605
01:03:59,750 --> 01:03:58,380
probably a quarter mile eighth of a mile

1606
01:04:02,450 --> 01:03:59,760
or something like that from the house it

1607
01:04:04,250 --> 01:04:02,460
seemed like a long way and I was making

1608
01:04:06,650 --> 01:04:04,260
such commotion my mom came out on the

1609
01:04:09,049 --> 01:04:06,660
back porch to see what was wrong I ran

1610
01:04:09,950 --> 01:04:09,059
past her and went my house and head but

1611
01:04:15,530 --> 01:04:09,960
uh

1612
01:04:18,049 --> 01:04:15,540
got me calmed down by then I recounted

1613
01:04:20,210 --> 01:04:18,059
my story you know was it a deer was it a

1614
01:04:22,609 --> 01:04:20,220
bear no I knew what all those things

1615
01:04:24,650 --> 01:04:22,619
were I'd seen all those things this I

1616
01:04:25,789 --> 01:04:24,660
couldn't see but uh they went up there

1617
01:04:27,289 --> 01:04:25,799
and looked they could see where

1618
01:04:28,730 --> 01:04:27,299
something had broke tree limbs and

1619
01:04:33,109 --> 01:04:28,740
kicked leaves up

1620
01:04:35,150 --> 01:04:33,119
uh no idea what it was well uh I just

1621
01:04:37,250 --> 01:04:35,160
stayed away from there I did lure a kid

1622
01:04:38,990 --> 01:04:37,260
that came home with me from school one

1623
01:04:41,809 --> 01:04:39,000
time I got him to go up there and stand

1624
01:04:43,190 --> 01:04:41,819
he didn't know why but like Johnny go up

1625
01:04:45,650 --> 01:04:43,200
there and stand and look in the ditch

1626
01:04:47,329 --> 01:04:45,660
and tell me if you see anything and I

1627
01:04:49,490 --> 01:04:47,339
head back down the hill behind the tree

1628
01:04:51,049 --> 01:04:49,500
and watched so he didn't know why but

1629
01:04:53,150 --> 01:04:51,059
he's just like Duke to do no don't see

1630
01:04:55,490 --> 01:04:53,160
anything didn't chase him didn't bother

1631
01:04:57,890 --> 01:04:55,500
him nothing ever got after my dad or my

1632
01:05:00,410 --> 01:04:57,900
brother and before I was born my brother

1633
01:05:03,049 --> 01:05:00,420
had hunted in those woods before we

1634
01:05:06,109 --> 01:05:03,059
built a house on the property well Flash

1635
01:05:08,210 --> 01:05:06,119
Forward uh I'm 15 years old at this

1636
01:05:09,770 --> 01:05:08,220
point we had sold that property and then

1637
01:05:12,049 --> 01:05:09,780
we're getting ready to move to a new

1638
01:05:13,970 --> 01:05:12,059
house and my father folks that had built

1639
01:05:16,190 --> 01:05:13,980
and I was just out walking around the

1640
01:05:18,470 --> 01:05:16,200
woods exploring some of my old childhood

1641
01:05:21,230 --> 01:05:18,480
Halls so I spent a lot of time in those

1642
01:05:22,730 --> 01:05:21,240
woods I taught myself uh Woodcraft and

1643
01:05:24,410 --> 01:05:22,740
and wood lore and things like that

1644
01:05:27,230 --> 01:05:24,420
learned to identify plants there was

1645
01:05:29,750 --> 01:05:27,240
ginseng That Grew there naturally and uh

1646
01:05:31,789 --> 01:05:29,760
knew what to stay away from and and what

1647
01:05:35,210 --> 01:05:31,799
was really neat there was a bee tree and

1648
01:05:38,150 --> 01:05:35,220
a little almost like a cave is really

1649
01:05:40,190 --> 01:05:38,160
just a hole in the side of a hill

1650
01:05:41,750 --> 01:05:40,200
um but uh I walked back up to the ditch

1651
01:05:44,089 --> 01:05:41,760
and I'm just kind of chuckling I'm like

1652
01:05:45,349 --> 01:05:44,099
I wonder what scared me all those years

1653
01:05:46,730 --> 01:05:45,359
ago because at that point it's been

1654
01:05:50,089 --> 01:05:46,740
about seven years

1655
01:05:52,190 --> 01:05:50,099
and uh turned around walk away sure

1656
01:05:54,170 --> 01:05:52,200
enough I hear that noise again turn

1657
01:05:55,730 --> 01:05:54,180
around here comes that thing out of the

1658
01:05:57,470 --> 01:05:55,740
ditch can't see it but I can see what

1659
01:05:59,809 --> 01:05:57,480
it's doing now I didn't run screaming

1660
01:06:02,150 --> 01:05:59,819
and crying that time but I didn't waste

1661
01:06:03,470 --> 01:06:02,160
any time getting back down the hill and

1662
01:06:05,870 --> 01:06:03,480
that was the last time I was ever there

1663
01:06:09,650 --> 01:06:05,880
we moved away from there a few months

1664
01:06:12,170 --> 01:06:09,660
after that well Flash Forward another uh

1665
01:06:14,089 --> 01:06:12,180
six years or so I was probably 21 or so

1666
01:06:16,370 --> 01:06:14,099
I was working at a place in West

1667
01:06:18,230 --> 01:06:16,380
Knoxville and um

1668
01:06:20,270 --> 01:06:18,240
a guy that I worked with only knew him

1669
01:06:22,730 --> 01:06:20,280
from work invited me to a party after

1670
01:06:24,049 --> 01:06:22,740
work so I went it was at somebody's

1671
01:06:26,089 --> 01:06:24,059
apartment a bunch of people there I

1672
01:06:27,470 --> 01:06:26,099
didn't know anybody except for the guy

1673
01:06:30,170 --> 01:06:27,480
that invited me and didn't really know

1674
01:06:32,630 --> 01:06:30,180
him and uh some girls that were there

1675
01:06:35,210 --> 01:06:32,640
found a Ouija board he's a behind the

1676
01:06:37,370 --> 01:06:35,220
couch or under the couch so they decided

1677
01:06:38,630 --> 01:06:37,380
you know let's do this so they're

1678
01:06:40,970 --> 01:06:38,640
they're going around the room they're

1679
01:06:43,309 --> 01:06:40,980
asking questions came around to my turn

1680
01:06:45,710 --> 01:06:43,319
I thought boy I've got a doozy for you

1681
01:06:48,890 --> 01:06:45,720
and this is exactly what I said word for

1682
01:06:51,170 --> 01:06:48,900
word what scared me as a child

1683
01:06:52,670 --> 01:06:51,180
and uh the Ouija board they're doing its

1684
01:06:57,370 --> 01:06:52,680
thing there it's pretty great and it

1685
01:07:01,910 --> 01:07:00,049
w-a-t-e-r-s-p-r-i-t-e they look to me I

1686
01:07:04,010 --> 01:07:01,920
just Shrugged my shoulders they're like

1687
01:07:05,510 --> 01:07:04,020
water Sprite is it is it Thursdays that

1688
01:07:08,690 --> 01:07:05,520
want a drink of water does it want a

1689
01:07:10,250 --> 01:07:08,700
Sprite so I left it at that well this

1690
01:07:12,109 --> 01:07:10,260
was in the days before the internet the

1691
01:07:14,210 --> 01:07:12,119
next day I had off which I think was the

1692
01:07:16,309 --> 01:07:14,220
next day was the reason why I went to

1693
01:07:18,170 --> 01:07:16,319
the party anyway but I went to the big

1694
01:07:20,150 --> 01:07:18,180
library downtown and I went up to the

1695
01:07:22,130 --> 01:07:20,160
reference library and I said what can

1696
01:07:24,770 --> 01:07:22,140
you tell me about a water Sprite

1697
01:07:27,230 --> 01:07:24,780
well she goes off into the stacks comes

1698
01:07:29,569 --> 01:07:27,240
back with some books and she brought out

1699
01:07:32,029 --> 01:07:29,579
some stuff and it was about uh like

1700
01:07:34,309 --> 01:07:32,039
Elementals in the FAE there are spirits

1701
01:07:36,829 --> 01:07:34,319
and and I always get confused but

1702
01:07:38,809 --> 01:07:36,839
there's either a niad or a dryad one of

1703
01:07:40,910 --> 01:07:38,819
them is a guardian of the trees the

1704
01:07:43,190 --> 01:07:40,920
other is a guardian of the waters on

1705
01:07:45,049 --> 01:07:43,200
this particular property that we lived

1706
01:07:47,630 --> 01:07:45,059
on there were seven natural springs

1707
01:07:50,210 --> 01:07:47,640
there six of them float out of hillsides

1708
01:07:52,250 --> 01:07:50,220
a seventh one was an Artesian spring

1709
01:07:54,890 --> 01:07:52,260
they all flowed together into a bigger

1710
01:07:57,829 --> 01:07:54,900
Creek which flowed down into the the

1711
01:07:59,630 --> 01:07:57,839
lake that used to be the river so it

1712
01:08:02,390 --> 01:07:59,640
would be the perfect place for a water

1713
01:08:05,150 --> 01:08:02,400
Sprite or a water spirit now why it got

1714
01:08:07,549 --> 01:08:05,160
after me and chased me out there who

1715
01:08:10,970 --> 01:08:07,559
knows but that's that's as good an

1716
01:08:13,130 --> 01:08:10,980
explanation as I've ever heard from a

1717
01:08:15,049 --> 01:08:13,140
Ouija board from people who had no

1718
01:08:17,570 --> 01:08:15,059
foreknowledge at all of what I was even

1719
01:08:19,669 --> 01:08:17,580
talking about and it all fit together

1720
01:08:22,669 --> 01:08:19,679
that's in my book They're My Strange

1721
01:08:26,349 --> 01:08:24,349
um man here's here's an interesting

1722
01:08:29,329 --> 01:08:26,359
question involving your cat do you

1723
01:08:32,689 --> 01:08:29,339
Cather ask

1724
01:08:35,269 --> 01:08:32,699
uh is your cat aware of or in tune with

1725
01:08:36,829 --> 01:08:35,279
the resonant ghost in your place I I

1726
01:08:38,990 --> 01:08:36,839
think they are I definitely think they

1727
01:08:40,309 --> 01:08:39,000
are one day I was sitting in the living

1728
01:08:42,590 --> 01:08:40,319
room and I could see down the hallway

1729
01:08:45,349 --> 01:08:42,600
and at that time Sandy and her husband

1730
01:08:47,450 --> 01:08:45,359
were still here she had uh seven cats

1731
01:08:50,150 --> 01:08:47,460
five of them were black they had a dog

1732
01:08:52,070 --> 01:08:50,160
and uh my dog Mulder was here with me

1733
01:08:54,349 --> 01:08:52,080
well I was sitting in the living room to

1734
01:08:57,410 --> 01:08:54,359
the fireplace and I watched and every

1735
01:08:59,630 --> 01:08:57,420
single animal one at a time came down

1736
01:09:01,309 --> 01:08:59,640
the hallway and looked into the the

1737
01:09:04,010 --> 01:09:01,319
doorway of the room where I'm sitting

1738
01:09:05,630 --> 01:09:04,020
now walked back and it's like they then

1739
01:09:08,570 --> 01:09:05,640
another one would come down but every

1740
01:09:11,090 --> 01:09:08,580
single one of them individually and that

1741
01:09:13,309 --> 01:09:11,100
that was the weirdest thing and even now

1742
01:09:15,470 --> 01:09:13,319
A Mother's not too happy to be in there

1743
01:09:17,090 --> 01:09:15,480
he didn't want to come in here and I

1744
01:09:19,669 --> 01:09:17,100
didn't want me to shut the door but I

1745
01:09:21,829 --> 01:09:19,679
finally got him to to lay down and then

1746
01:09:23,630 --> 01:09:21,839
one of the cats is still in here there's

1747
01:09:27,050 --> 01:09:23,640
actually two cats here now one of them's

1748
01:09:28,309 --> 01:09:27,060
not mine I'm watching it for a friend

1749
01:09:30,709 --> 01:09:28,319
um

1750
01:09:32,390 --> 01:09:30,719
Lieutenant Dan he's only got three legs

1751
01:09:38,050 --> 01:09:32,400
but uh

1752
01:09:40,789 --> 01:09:38,060
the that's a from a Forester Gump

1753
01:09:42,769 --> 01:09:40,799
against the reference there but uh

1754
01:09:44,990 --> 01:09:42,779
Benton's my black cat that I got on

1755
01:09:47,030 --> 01:09:45,000
Halloween is a birthday gift she doesn't

1756
01:09:48,709 --> 01:09:47,040
like it in here now she'll come in if

1757
01:09:50,749 --> 01:09:48,719
the door's open I have to shut the door

1758
01:09:53,030 --> 01:09:50,759
because she likes to come in and walk on

1759
01:09:54,470 --> 01:09:53,040
the keyboard and climb on me and climb

1760
01:09:57,430 --> 01:09:54,480
on the back of the chair I saw one of

1761
01:10:00,229 --> 01:09:57,440
your cats up there earlier but yeah

1762
01:10:02,810 --> 01:10:00,239
first cat I've ever had my mom didn't

1763
01:10:05,209 --> 01:10:02,820
like cats was afraid of him to some

1764
01:10:06,709 --> 01:10:05,219
degree and she was superstitious enough

1765
01:10:09,890 --> 01:10:06,719
I couldn't have had a black cat

1766
01:10:11,570 --> 01:10:09,900
regardless so my first cat now my

1767
01:10:14,330 --> 01:10:11,580
daughter had cats when she was younger

1768
01:10:16,370 --> 01:10:14,340
but this is my first cat black cat named

1769
01:10:18,590 --> 01:10:16,380
bins but yeah she don't like this room

1770
01:10:21,350 --> 01:10:18,600
either none of the animals are too happy

1771
01:10:23,030 --> 01:10:21,360
with it well I I tell you I've had cats

1772
01:10:25,910 --> 01:10:23,040
all my life and they are the weirdest

1773
01:10:28,850 --> 01:10:25,920
damn creatures I mean they they do some

1774
01:10:30,890 --> 01:10:28,860
strange things and then I've seen two or

1775
01:10:32,990 --> 01:10:30,900
three of them sit down here at the end

1776
01:10:35,090 --> 01:10:33,000
of the hall and not in this room but

1777
01:10:37,610 --> 01:10:35,100
looking up in the hallway looking at

1778
01:10:39,470 --> 01:10:37,620
something it's not there that's what

1779
01:10:41,090 --> 01:10:39,480
they do a pair of flies their moth

1780
01:10:43,250 --> 01:10:41,100
there's nothing there there's only three

1781
01:10:45,290 --> 01:10:43,260
of them three of the black ones and they

1782
01:10:46,729 --> 01:10:45,300
were watching whatever it was and then

1783
01:10:49,310 --> 01:10:46,739
all of a sudden they just ran back down

1784
01:10:53,510 --> 01:10:49,320
the hallway so yeah cats are so strange

1785
01:10:56,750 --> 01:10:53,520
creatures this cat Vinnie my cat I I got

1786
01:10:59,630 --> 01:10:56,760
him but I had two dogs when we got him

1787
01:11:01,310 --> 01:10:59,640
and uh those dogs used to sleep on the

1788
01:11:02,450 --> 01:11:01,320
couch so he'd get up on the top of the

1789
01:11:05,330 --> 01:11:02,460
couch

1790
01:11:07,430 --> 01:11:05,340
and uh he'd be looking around and you

1791
01:11:10,010 --> 01:11:07,440
could watch his eyes like he's following

1792
01:11:12,590 --> 01:11:10,020
something coming to the sofa and he's

1793
01:11:15,590 --> 01:11:12,600
seeing something and as he's looking

1794
01:11:18,110 --> 01:11:15,600
down at the dog the dog jumps up off the

1795
01:11:21,110 --> 01:11:18,120
couch like something startled him

1796
01:11:22,910 --> 01:11:21,120
this cat saw something and he's done he

1797
01:11:25,130 --> 01:11:22,920
did that he's done that all the time I

1798
01:11:27,290 --> 01:11:25,140
see him do it all the time now the dogs

1799
01:11:29,270 --> 01:11:27,300
have passed since then but he does some

1800
01:11:32,570 --> 01:11:29,280
weird things

1801
01:11:35,209 --> 01:11:32,580
yeah and uh my dog the only the real

1802
01:11:36,649 --> 01:11:35,219
shadow person encounter I've ever had it

1803
01:11:37,970 --> 01:11:36,659
happened at a place I was living in

1804
01:11:40,010 --> 01:11:37,980
Oregon

1805
01:11:42,229 --> 01:11:40,020
um I was walking into the kitchen one

1806
01:11:43,729 --> 01:11:42,239
night and I saw what looked like a

1807
01:11:45,830 --> 01:11:43,739
shadow but there was no person there

1808
01:11:48,290 --> 01:11:45,840
just the shadow came out of the laundry

1809
01:11:50,390 --> 01:11:48,300
room across the kitchen or across the

1810
01:11:52,310 --> 01:11:50,400
dining room through the kitchen and out

1811
01:11:55,729 --> 01:11:52,320
the wall which would have went into the

1812
01:11:57,709 --> 01:11:55,739
garage and my my dog was with me and he

1813
01:11:59,450 --> 01:11:57,719
saw it he didn't growl he didn't bark

1814
01:12:02,270 --> 01:11:59,460
but he was wagging his tail like oh

1815
01:12:04,490 --> 01:12:02,280
who's this he's not as somebody new but

1816
01:12:06,350 --> 01:12:04,500
the lady that lived there she was a

1817
01:12:08,630 --> 01:12:06,360
widow and her husband had died

1818
01:12:10,669 --> 01:12:08,640
tragically in a car crash and she said

1819
01:12:12,410 --> 01:12:10,679
oh that that's my husband he visits here

1820
01:12:15,470 --> 01:12:12,420
he usually likes to play with the

1821
01:12:18,410 --> 01:12:15,480
electronics but uh I've seen this Shadow

1822
01:12:20,689 --> 01:12:18,420
too but I I saw that just as sure as I'm

1823
01:12:22,430 --> 01:12:20,699
sitting here looking at you it was a the

1824
01:12:24,709 --> 01:12:22,440
shadow of a person and it walked through

1825
01:12:26,930 --> 01:12:24,719
the room and out through the wall That's

1826
01:12:29,630 --> 01:12:26,940
I've I've seen some other partial

1827
01:12:31,790 --> 01:12:29,640
shadows and some black Misty shapes and

1828
01:12:34,729 --> 01:12:31,800
things like this but this was the only

1829
01:12:37,370 --> 01:12:34,739
clearly defined outline of a person I've

1830
01:12:39,110 --> 01:12:37,380
ever seen like that wow but I didn't I

1831
01:12:41,330 --> 01:12:39,120
didn't feel scared or feel the fear off

1832
01:12:43,310 --> 01:12:41,340
of it it was just like wow and I said

1833
01:12:45,890 --> 01:12:43,320
Mulder he was happy to see whoever it

1834
01:12:46,790 --> 01:12:45,900
was so there you go

1835
01:12:50,090 --> 01:12:46,800
um

1836
01:12:52,810 --> 01:12:50,100
uh Davey Jones Locker asked if you've

1837
01:12:55,430 --> 01:12:52,820
ever had an Angelic encounter

1838
01:12:59,090 --> 01:12:55,440
I believe so I mean that's one of those

1839
01:13:02,209 --> 01:12:59,100
things you don't really know whether it

1840
01:13:04,010 --> 01:13:02,219
was or not but uh I was sitting outside

1841
01:13:07,729 --> 01:13:04,020
a church one night

1842
01:13:10,250 --> 01:13:07,739
a friend of mine was in a an AAA meeting

1843
01:13:12,290 --> 01:13:10,260
and they'd asked for a ride and I

1844
01:13:15,350 --> 01:13:12,300
dropped them off there and I was waiting

1845
01:13:17,689 --> 01:13:15,360
outside and uh

1846
01:13:19,250 --> 01:13:17,699
is in downtown Knoxville

1847
01:13:22,250 --> 01:13:19,260
and I could take you to the spot today

1848
01:13:24,169 --> 01:13:22,260
as an old church and um

1849
01:13:26,750 --> 01:13:24,179
I was listening to some guy on the radio

1850
01:13:28,430 --> 01:13:26,760
uh with those radio preaches I think

1851
01:13:31,490 --> 01:13:28,440
it's Bob Larson or somebody like that

1852
01:13:33,410 --> 01:13:31,500
you remember him and the satanic panic

1853
01:13:36,410 --> 01:13:33,420
in the background and all that stuff

1854
01:13:38,750 --> 01:13:36,420
that tells you how long ago this was and

1855
01:13:40,189 --> 01:13:38,760
uh so I've been watching my parts where

1856
01:13:41,870 --> 01:13:40,199
I could see the the door of the church

1857
01:13:42,770 --> 01:13:41,880
where they'd be coming out of so I'm

1858
01:13:47,209 --> 01:13:42,780
sitting there watching downtown

1859
01:13:49,010 --> 01:13:47,219
Knoxville's late at night uh it's maybe

1860
01:13:52,370 --> 01:13:49,020
dangerous down there now but it wasn't

1861
01:13:55,910 --> 01:13:52,380
then but uh all of a sudden there's this

1862
01:13:57,590 --> 01:13:55,920
guy right behind my car and and that

1863
01:13:59,630 --> 01:13:57,600
night the guy has listened to like I

1864
01:14:01,669 --> 01:13:59,640
said I believe it was Bob Larson he was

1865
01:14:03,649 --> 01:14:01,679
talking about angels I was just like no

1866
01:14:06,110 --> 01:14:03,659
wonder and then all of a sudden there's

1867
01:14:09,050 --> 01:14:06,120
this guy just up here right behind my

1868
01:14:11,990 --> 01:14:09,060
car and he he walks around to the window

1869
01:14:13,370 --> 01:14:12,000
and he asks me for some money and he

1870
01:14:15,709 --> 01:14:13,380
said I know a place I can get a chicken

1871
01:14:17,209 --> 01:14:15,719
dinner for two dollars well this this is

1872
01:14:18,229 --> 01:14:17,219
in the 80s I mean even in the 80s I

1873
01:14:21,950 --> 01:14:18,239
don't think you could get a chicken

1874
01:14:24,410 --> 01:14:21,960
dinner anywhere for two dollars well I

1875
01:14:26,630 --> 01:14:24,420
reached in my pocket in two dollars was

1876
01:14:28,970 --> 01:14:26,640
exactly the amount of cash I had on me

1877
01:14:31,010 --> 01:14:28,980
and I gave it to him and I do this when

1878
01:14:33,110 --> 01:14:31,020
I when I give to somebody I said now you

1879
01:14:35,450 --> 01:14:33,120
asked for this for food and I'm gonna

1880
01:14:37,610 --> 01:14:35,460
give it to you in the name of Jesus for

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01:14:40,310 --> 01:14:37,620
food if you spend it on something else

1882
01:14:43,490 --> 01:14:40,320
that's between you and your maker I gave

1883
01:14:46,070 --> 01:14:43,500
it in a giving spirit and he took the

1884
01:14:47,689 --> 01:14:46,080
money and he said one more thing he said

1885
01:14:50,090 --> 01:14:47,699
then this was in the summertime he said

1886
01:14:52,189 --> 01:14:50,100
cold weather will be here soon you don't

1887
01:14:55,189 --> 01:14:52,199
happen to have an Overcoat I can have do

1888
01:14:57,709 --> 01:14:55,199
you and like nobody I sure don't think I

1889
01:15:00,470 --> 01:14:57,719
do and I just you know made a show out I

1890
01:15:02,810 --> 01:15:00,480
reached behind my seat and put my hands

1891
01:15:04,490 --> 01:15:02,820
on a raincoat that I have bought at

1892
01:15:06,169 --> 01:15:04,500
Goodwill a while back and it just left

1893
01:15:08,689 --> 01:15:06,179
it in the car

1894
01:15:12,410 --> 01:15:08,699
and I pulled it up and I said how about

1895
01:15:15,169 --> 01:15:12,420
this will this fit you the guy put it on

1896
01:15:17,090 --> 01:15:15,179
thanked me God blessed me walked around

1897
01:15:18,110 --> 01:15:17,100
the corner of the church there the end

1898
01:15:20,030 --> 01:15:18,120
of the block

1899
01:15:21,890 --> 01:15:20,040
and I thought that's weird that don't

1900
01:15:24,649 --> 01:15:21,900
make no sense

1901
01:15:25,970 --> 01:15:24,659
I mean I'd even forgotten that Overcoat

1902
01:15:27,290 --> 01:15:25,980
was in the car reached behind my car

1903
01:15:30,649 --> 01:15:27,300
seat that's the first thing I put my

1904
01:15:33,050 --> 01:15:30,659
hand on it was in the floor so I start

1905
01:15:34,550 --> 01:15:33,060
the car I mean this guy had just went

1906
01:15:35,930 --> 01:15:34,560
outside around the corner I was like I

1907
01:15:37,430 --> 01:15:35,940
want to see where this guy goes and see

1908
01:15:40,729 --> 01:15:37,440
about this two dollar chicken dinner I

1909
01:15:42,590 --> 01:15:40,739
might want one of those and uh drove

1910
01:15:44,750 --> 01:15:42,600
around the corner the side of the church

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01:15:47,390 --> 01:15:44,760
there there was a park on the other side

1912
01:15:49,550 --> 01:15:47,400
it was gated and shut they had the gates

1913
01:15:50,649 --> 01:15:49,560
padlocked that guy was nowhere to be

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01:15:54,709 --> 01:15:50,659
found

1915
01:15:57,169 --> 01:15:54,719
not there and I I believe as I just been

1916
01:15:59,510 --> 01:15:57,179
listening to this show about angels this

1917
01:16:01,490 --> 01:15:59,520
guy comes up out of nowhere

1918
01:16:04,250 --> 01:16:01,500
asked me for two dollars which is

1919
01:16:06,890 --> 01:16:04,260
exactly what I had in cash and then

1920
01:16:08,510 --> 01:16:06,900
asked for an Overcoat which I had and

1921
01:16:10,790 --> 01:16:08,520
didn't even remember I had it in there

1922
01:16:12,590 --> 01:16:10,800
and it disappears throughout the corner

1923
01:16:14,510 --> 01:16:12,600
I think that was my answer to the

1924
01:16:17,330 --> 01:16:14,520
questions I would say I think it was not

1925
01:16:20,689 --> 01:16:17,340
Angels now my brother was a Pentecostal

1926
01:16:22,490 --> 01:16:20,699
Minister and a preacher and he had a lot

1927
01:16:24,709 --> 01:16:22,500
of Angel stories I could I could do a

1928
01:16:25,750 --> 01:16:24,719
whole show on other people's Angels

1929
01:16:28,250 --> 01:16:25,760
stories

1930
01:16:31,250 --> 01:16:28,260
I believe they exist I believe they

1931
01:16:32,990 --> 01:16:31,260
visit us and you know even uh like in

1932
01:16:35,209 --> 01:16:33,000
the Mormon religion some of those you

1933
01:16:36,770 --> 01:16:35,219
have the the neophytes the three uh

1934
01:16:39,590 --> 01:16:36,780
neophytes I think it is that travel

1935
01:16:41,990 --> 01:16:39,600
around and and ask people for things and

1936
01:16:44,689 --> 01:16:42,000
I think there are people whether it's

1937
01:16:46,490 --> 01:16:44,699
Angels or Spirits or whatever people

1938
01:16:49,070 --> 01:16:46,500
things that are put here to see how you

1939
01:16:52,490 --> 01:16:49,080
treat people I've often heard that that

1940
01:16:54,709 --> 01:16:52,500
uh if you believe in karma that how you

1941
01:16:57,169 --> 01:16:54,719
treat people is your karma and how they

1942
01:16:58,910 --> 01:16:57,179
treat you as theirs so I try to give

1943
01:17:02,149 --> 01:16:58,920
everybody a fair Shake be nice to people

1944
01:17:05,750 --> 01:17:02,159
help somebody if I can like this missing

1945
01:17:08,750 --> 01:17:05,760
persons thing we anonymously donate to

1946
01:17:11,450 --> 01:17:08,760
uh Charlie project name us any kind of a

1947
01:17:14,270 --> 01:17:11,460
missing person fund to the families to

1948
01:17:16,729 --> 01:17:14,280
help have posters made or hire private

1949
01:17:18,830 --> 01:17:16,739
investigators or whatever and again

1950
01:17:21,169 --> 01:17:18,840
that's all done and obviously that's not

1951
01:17:23,689 --> 01:17:21,179
the point of what we're doing uh we're

1952
01:17:25,430 --> 01:17:23,699
just there to get the word out and our

1953
01:17:28,790 --> 01:17:25,440
mission statement if you want to call it

1954
01:17:31,729 --> 01:17:28,800
that if we can bring one person home or

1955
01:17:34,010 --> 01:17:31,739
in the the other end of that give one

1956
01:17:35,870 --> 01:17:34,020
family closure then we're doing what

1957
01:17:38,090 --> 01:17:35,880
we've been called to do what we feel has

1958
01:17:40,430 --> 01:17:38,100
been laid on our heart to do exactly now

1959
01:17:42,790 --> 01:17:40,440
the mystery side of that we get into a

1960
01:17:45,530 --> 01:17:42,800
little bit of woo over there

1961
01:17:47,930 --> 01:17:45,540
missing persons that'll always be first

1962
01:17:50,870 --> 01:17:47,940
and foremost the focus of the channel

1963
01:17:52,790 --> 01:17:50,880
yeah I I'm a strong believer in angels

1964
01:17:55,850 --> 01:17:52,800
um a lot of people who are in this check

1965
01:17:58,070 --> 01:17:55,860
and tell you that and uh I I believe

1966
01:18:00,950 --> 01:17:58,080
I've personally worked with them and I

1967
01:18:03,350 --> 01:18:00,960
think I've got at least one strongman

1968
01:18:05,090 --> 01:18:03,360
around me all the time so yeah I'm I'm a

1969
01:18:08,510 --> 01:18:05,100
strong believer in it I believe that I

1970
01:18:11,209 --> 01:18:08,520
believe you have Guardian Angels uh

1971
01:18:13,010 --> 01:18:11,219
I mean and Angelic beings I don't now I

1972
01:18:14,510 --> 01:18:13,020
may believe differently than other

1973
01:18:16,490 --> 01:18:14,520
people in the chat here and again that's

1974
01:18:20,689 --> 01:18:16,500
you know no harm no foul everybody

1975
01:18:22,070 --> 01:18:20,699
believes what they believe but uh y'all

1976
01:18:24,229 --> 01:18:22,080
heard people say oh my God my granny

1977
01:18:26,990 --> 01:18:24,239
died and went to heaven and became an

1978
01:18:29,750 --> 01:18:27,000
angel well the way I look at that God

1979
01:18:32,030 --> 01:18:29,760
created those beings those ancilly

1980
01:18:34,610 --> 01:18:32,040
beings and sends them out on specific

1981
01:18:36,770 --> 01:18:34,620
tasks now I'm not saying your granny

1982
01:18:39,890 --> 01:18:36,780
isn't an angel or wasn't an angel in

1983
01:18:41,930 --> 01:18:39,900
Life or in death but uh I believe that

1984
01:18:44,149 --> 01:18:41,940
people have assigned angels that are

1985
01:18:46,970 --> 01:18:44,159
assigned to them probably from birth or

1986
01:18:48,350 --> 01:18:46,980
even before birth I mean the Bible says

1987
01:18:51,350 --> 01:18:48,360
um and God's speaking they said even in

1988
01:18:52,550 --> 01:18:51,360
the womb I knew you so if if he knows

1989
01:18:54,530 --> 01:18:52,560
you and he's going to send something to

1990
01:18:56,990 --> 01:18:54,540
protect you it's been there at least

1991
01:18:59,990 --> 01:18:57,000
since you were born and I think I've had

1992
01:19:02,209 --> 01:19:00,000
some encounters that were an Angelic per

1993
01:19:04,970 --> 01:19:02,219
se but definitely divine intervention

1994
01:19:06,950 --> 01:19:04,980
where if I've just been a minute sooner

1995
01:19:09,350 --> 01:19:06,960
or a minute later I probably wouldn't be

1996
01:19:12,410 --> 01:19:09,360
sitting here right now um oh that's

1997
01:19:13,970 --> 01:19:12,420
close close calls definitely I said

1998
01:19:17,689 --> 01:19:13,980
divine intervention the guardian angel

1999
01:19:19,130 --> 01:19:17,699
something watching over me and uh I just

2000
01:19:21,470 --> 01:19:19,140
I don't believe in coincidence I believe

2001
01:19:23,450 --> 01:19:21,480
everything happens for a reason I I

2002
01:19:25,669 --> 01:19:23,460
agree with you there my granny used to

2003
01:19:27,890 --> 01:19:25,679
say you may not ever know the reason and

2004
01:19:29,810 --> 01:19:27,900
if you do it may only be in retrospect

2005
01:19:33,290 --> 01:19:29,820
but everything happens for a reason

2006
01:19:35,689 --> 01:19:33,300
there is a plan out there hmm

2007
01:19:37,250 --> 01:19:35,699
so um Steve why don't you tell the folks

2008
01:19:38,930 --> 01:19:37,260
how they can get in contact with you

2009
01:19:40,550 --> 01:19:38,940
find your books and anything else you

2010
01:19:42,590 --> 01:19:40,560
want to tell them well my books are

2011
01:19:44,390 --> 01:19:42,600
available on Amazon or whoever find

2012
01:19:46,550 --> 01:19:44,400
books are sold they're listed in books

2013
01:19:48,649 --> 01:19:46,560
in print any bookstore or Library can

2014
01:19:51,590 --> 01:19:48,659
order you for it if they don't have it

2015
01:19:53,689 --> 01:19:51,600
uh sometimes I see them in the wild uh

2016
01:19:55,550 --> 01:19:53,699
had a person send me a picture of one of

2017
01:19:57,890 --> 01:19:55,560
my books they found it in a Target in

2018
01:19:59,630 --> 01:19:57,900
Florida you know how it ended up there I

2019
01:20:01,610 --> 01:19:59,640
don't know I'm still waiting for the

2020
01:20:03,950 --> 01:20:01,620
Piggly Wiggly now when my books make it

2021
01:20:06,470 --> 01:20:03,960
into this I don't know if you have those

2022
01:20:08,149 --> 01:20:06,480
in your area but when I was a kid down

2023
01:20:09,970 --> 01:20:08,159
south that was a big thing to get to

2024
01:20:12,430 --> 01:20:09,980
kill the Piggly Wiggly

2025
01:20:15,530 --> 01:20:12,440
I don't know if you know

2026
01:20:17,090 --> 01:20:15,540
Bigfoot and on Connor but uh he'll go

2027
01:20:19,250 --> 01:20:17,100
and set up outside a comic book shop

2028
01:20:21,470 --> 01:20:19,260
with a little table just start signing

2029
01:20:22,990 --> 01:20:21,480
his books until they figure out he's not

2030
01:20:25,430 --> 01:20:23,000
supposed to be there and run him away

2031
01:20:27,169 --> 01:20:25,440
one day I'm going to have a surprise

2032
01:20:29,330 --> 01:20:27,179
book signing in front of a Piggly Wiggly

2033
01:20:31,750 --> 01:20:29,340
somewhere there you go but there you go

2034
01:20:35,330 --> 01:20:31,760
you can you can find them on amazon.com

2035
01:20:37,310 --> 01:20:35,340
and uh I'm on missing persons and

2036
01:20:41,209 --> 01:20:37,320
Mysteries that's my main YouTube channel

2037
01:20:43,010 --> 01:20:41,219
that I have 13 past midnight and uh I

2038
01:20:44,510 --> 01:20:43,020
want to thank my partner bill melder for

2039
01:20:46,250 --> 01:20:44,520
including me and missing persons and

2040
01:20:49,070 --> 01:20:46,260
Mysteries without him that wouldn't

2041
01:20:51,709 --> 01:20:49,080
exist we're just about to the quarter

2042
01:20:54,050 --> 01:20:51,719
million subscriber Mark and get around 2

2043
01:20:56,030 --> 01:20:54,060
million views a month so something for

2044
01:20:59,450 --> 01:20:56,040
everybody over there and then I've just

2045
01:21:01,729 --> 01:20:59,460
started a band camp page where people

2046
01:21:04,910 --> 01:21:01,739
for whatever reason God help him enjoy

2047
01:21:08,830 --> 01:21:04,920
my voice I'm doing some audio books and

2048
01:21:11,750 --> 01:21:08,840
some uh spoken word stuff Steve

2049
01:21:14,270 --> 01:21:11,760
stockton.bandcamp.com and uh gonna be

2050
01:21:16,130 --> 01:21:14,280
some fun stuff over there and uh if you

2051
01:21:18,050 --> 01:21:16,140
want to reach out to me I'm on Facebook

2052
01:21:21,070 --> 01:21:18,060
I've I've got

2053
01:21:23,390 --> 01:21:21,080
uh I'll be I'm anybody's friend

2054
01:21:25,330 --> 01:21:23,400
somebody's calling it The hogly wogly

2055
01:21:28,850 --> 01:21:25,340
there

2056
01:21:30,770 --> 01:21:28,860
but uh I'll send me a friend request or

2057
01:21:32,750 --> 01:21:30,780
a message me on instant messenger I'll

2058
01:21:35,090 --> 01:21:32,760
talk to you or you can email me I love

2059
01:21:36,950 --> 01:21:35,100
hearing from fans friends people with

2060
01:21:40,010 --> 01:21:36,960
questions people with stories to share

2061
01:21:43,610 --> 01:21:40,020
Steve Stockton 81 that's the number

2062
01:21:47,330 --> 01:21:43,620
eight one at gmail.com and one of our

2063
01:21:49,550 --> 01:21:47,340
favorite non-missing persons uh segments

2064
01:21:51,590 --> 01:21:49,560
over there is called Lister stories and

2065
01:21:54,470 --> 01:21:51,600
the majority of those are some kind of

2066
01:21:58,550 --> 01:21:54,480
paranormal experience Bigfoot goes hat

2067
01:22:00,709 --> 01:21:58,560
man dog man shadow people uh flannel

2068
01:22:02,689 --> 01:22:00,719
band there's getting to be so many of

2069
01:22:05,090 --> 01:22:02,699
them now it's hard to keep up well I'm

2070
01:22:07,689 --> 01:22:05,100
telling you you're right yeah that so

2071
01:22:09,950 --> 01:22:07,699
that they'll get a thin blonde

2072
01:22:11,630 --> 01:22:09,960
well Steve it's always great having you

2073
01:22:14,570 --> 01:22:11,640
on with me you're going to be on with me

2074
01:22:16,490 --> 01:22:14,580
next Friday matter of fact we're going

2075
01:22:18,770 --> 01:22:16,500
to have a special show and I'm going to

2076
01:22:20,390 --> 01:22:18,780
talk about that a bit but you know

2077
01:22:22,310 --> 01:22:20,400
thanks again for coming on it's always

2078
01:22:24,649 --> 01:22:22,320
great having you and uh we'll be talking

2079
01:22:26,630 --> 01:22:24,659
soon all right I look forward to it

2080
01:22:29,510 --> 01:22:26,640
looking forward to next Friday night as

2081
01:22:30,709 --> 01:22:29,520
well uh I love being on your show love

2082
01:22:33,590 --> 01:22:30,719
people that you associate with

2083
01:22:35,570 --> 01:22:33,600
Bernadette Daniel I did McDaniel I

2084
01:22:37,430 --> 01:22:35,580
didn't know that that was her inaugural

2085
01:22:39,709 --> 01:22:37,440
show I know yeah

2086
01:22:40,970 --> 01:22:39,719
she's part of your network there I

2087
01:22:43,250 --> 01:22:40,980
didn't know that was her very first

2088
01:22:45,229 --> 01:22:43,260
premiere show ever but she did a good

2089
01:22:48,890 --> 01:22:45,239
job I hope you're proud of her she's

2090
01:22:50,990 --> 01:22:48,900
she's a great girl and uh uh I enjoyed

2091
01:22:54,890 --> 01:22:51,000
my time on there but anybody that you're

2092
01:22:58,130 --> 01:22:54,900
associated with on it just of top notch

2093
01:23:00,290 --> 01:22:58,140
well I appreciate that I'm glad to be a

2094
01:23:01,490 --> 01:23:00,300
part of it I guess in any way that I can

2095
01:23:03,830 --> 01:23:01,500
so

2096
01:23:05,990 --> 01:23:03,840
thank you and thanks to everybody in the

2097
01:23:08,209 --> 01:23:06,000
chat hello to all my people that are

2098
01:23:10,130 --> 01:23:08,219
here I love each and every one of you I

2099
01:23:13,189 --> 01:23:10,140
appreciate you I'll see you a little

2100
01:23:15,350 --> 01:23:13,199
farther on down the trail tiger lily

2101
01:23:17,330 --> 01:23:15,360
love you baby my girlfriend

2102
01:23:19,250 --> 01:23:17,340
[Laughter]

2103
01:23:21,470 --> 01:23:19,260
Karen have a good weekend man thanks a

2104
01:23:23,270 --> 01:23:21,480
lot I hope you get uh continue on your

2105
01:23:26,030 --> 01:23:23,280
path there you're looking so good my

2106
01:23:27,890 --> 01:23:26,040
friend I'm so happy for you and well I

2107
01:23:32,810 --> 01:23:27,900
appreciate that and thanks again thanks

2108
01:23:37,970 --> 01:23:35,990
so uh if you uh have a hat of sighting

2109
01:23:39,410 --> 01:23:37,980
or encounter report uh and would like to

2110
01:23:42,169 --> 01:23:39,420
be considered for the personal reports

2111
01:23:44,770 --> 01:23:42,179
of the famous monsters blog site uh feel

2112
01:23:46,370 --> 01:23:44,780
free to forward to my email at lawn

2113
01:23:48,530 --> 01:23:46,380
strickerfamousthemonster.com and I want

2114
01:23:50,930 --> 01:23:48,540
to again thanks Steve Stockton for

2115
01:23:52,370 --> 01:23:50,940
joining me this evening and uh thanks to

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each and all you for watching and

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chatting uh if you made a Super Chat

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donation

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it's truly appreciate your supports what

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makes all this possible please like

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subscribe and share and please comment

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um now next Wednesday

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I'm going to present another fans of

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Monster's personal report show at 9pm

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Eastern 6 p.m Pacific

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and you are all invited

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to the creepy Christmas cheer show next

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Friday December 23rd

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at 9 00 PM Eastern Time 6 p.m Pacific

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we're going to have some guests and

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surprises Steve's going to be on there

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we're going to have Dean bertom come on

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Vincent and Bernadette are going to join

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me as well so it should be a very

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interesting show talking about uh creepy

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Christmas Tales

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so and also you know stay tuned because

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Bernadette's uh show a paranormal life

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is going to be on here following me as

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on fans of monsters radio 11 p.m Eastern

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8 P.M Pacific so until we meet again

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stay healthy have a safe enjoyable

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